Democratic Primaries

ehrnst

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97. False equivalence.

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 04:37 PM

Feb 2020

They are smearing Biden in much, much greater measure than any other candidate.

And the GOP is promoting and coddling Bernie in much, much greater measure than any other candidate.

The team that rigged the GOP primaries accuses Democrats of rigging Iowa against Sanders

Republicans claim Nancy Pelosi is intentionally helping Joe Biden and hurting Bernie Sanders by delaying the Senate impeachment trial

Trump and His Aides Focused for Now on 2 Rivals (Neither Is the Front-Runner)

Republican strategist Karl Rove says Bernie Sanders could beat Donald Trump in 2020

Republicans pray for Bernie as Democratic nominee

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The answer is: because Bernie threatens big corporate interests. [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

great post ... Locrian Feb 2020 #1

Bloomberg is a registered Democrat. Renew Deal Feb 2020 #2

Who cares if he stays an Independent? As long as his agenda is Democratic who cares? Perseus Feb 2020 #17

Here is the thing. boston bean Feb 2020 #36

Crusades against Democrats? He critiques the record KPN Feb 2020 #53

He accuses them of being corrupt by taking donations from corporations. boston bean Feb 2020 #68

The point is that Bernie gets a lot of grief for being an independent but Bloomberg totodeinhere Feb 2020 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #3

Yes, great point. Welcome to DU! DanTex Feb 2020 #5

48 states to go Butterflylady Feb 2020 #56

+1. nt zackymilly Feb 2020 #67

I'd be interested in seeing key state polls. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #64

It looks like cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #89

How does Bernie threaten big corporate interests? betsuni Feb 2020 #4

I think that any increase in social spending has to be funded by those with money. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #14

Greed is a social disease pandemic across the world's wealthy. Magoo48 Feb 2020 #27

There are wealthy people and corporations who are Democrats and want progressive legislation. betsuni Feb 2020 #32

The wealthy liberals play a delicate game Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #49

Kick and rec I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #77

Of course it's a generalization. The key metric isn't every vs some, KPN Feb 2020 #55

Health care, a liveable mininum wage, and a desire to reduce military spending ramen Feb 2020 #22

Those are Democratic Party issues. betsuni Feb 2020 #29

Different candidates place different priorities on the order of importance of each. ramen Feb 2020 #31

$15 minimum wage was the 2016 Democratic platform. Look it up. betsuni Feb 2020 #35

I recall that, yes, it seems like you're reading past me. ramen Feb 2020 #42

Look up how it became part of the platform. Sanders negotiated it. JudyM Feb 2020 #57

Then that makes him the establishment. betsuni Feb 2020 #73

Wish they could have come to an agreement on Fracking! Who, besides Bernie, wants to end it? floppyboo Feb 2020 #93

I fear the only way Bernie supporters will believe the MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #6

I think that these claims that Bernie is unelectable are essentially people like you saying that you CentralMass Feb 2020 #8

Oh I'll vote for him. Happy to. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #9

I know things are divided here so I want to preface this question ramen Feb 2020 #24

The embracing of the term socialist. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #38

Could hardly have said it better ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #80

Yup. +1 pretty obvious. Blues Heron Feb 2020 #41

Yeah Ok, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #10

Maybe so. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #12

I would say that's an optimistic estimate Orrex Feb 2020 #15

He'd probably Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #50

Forgot Maryland and Delaware. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #52

Republicans are skewing the polls to select the easiest prey bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #37

1000% agree. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #39

Sometimes I just feel a need to speak the truth and awaken the gullible bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #51

So Trump can win when he is heard saying grab women by the pusssy Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #63

+2 mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #81

Actually , they're not threatened at all because they understand civics and Sanders octoberlib Feb 2020 #7

But.... the YOUNG voters!!!!! oldsoftie Feb 2020 #13

I think the reason he is so focused on young and other low-turnout voting blocs ramen Feb 2020 #25

Republican Senators can be replaced.. whathehell Feb 2020 #21

Except Ruger and Smith and Wesson. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #11

What was the question again? Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #16

Bernie loses entire southeast evertonfc Feb 2020 #18

Bernie polls best against Trump in TX. DanTex Feb 2020 #20

I can assure you that Trump will take Texas. flying_wahini Feb 2020 #43

How would gerryrigging affect a statewide election? nt. Mariana Feb 2020 #60

Exactly ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #82

I agree, the majority of residents of Texas will vote for Trump. nt. Mariana Feb 2020 #87

Do you have ideas about who could carry the southeast based on your experience there? ramen Feb 2020 #28

Probably no Democratic candidate has much of a chance. Mariana Feb 2020 #61

Their hypocrisy is stunning. ramen Feb 2020 #86

It actually makes sense. Mariana Feb 2020 #88

YES. whathehell Feb 2020 #19

So why do you think that the GOP is chomping at the bit for him to be the Dem candidate? ehrnst Feb 2020 #23

I'll bite. Why don't you enlightened us, and why would it be different with Elizabeth? brutus smith Feb 2020 #69

I simply am pointing out that indeed, the GOP wants Bernie. And you came to DanTex's rescue. ehrnst Feb 2020 #70

I just asked a simple question. But if you don't want to answer, that's ok. brutus smith Feb 2020 #71

You try to frantically change the subject, and I don't play along. ehrnst Feb 2020 #72

You don't have to get "grumpy" about it. brutus smith Feb 2020 #91

Just because I'm not frantic, and don't play along ehrnst Feb 2020 #92

You miss this point- James48 Feb 2020 #26

This is a huge point that gets overlooked in this discussion. ramen Feb 2020 #30

False equivalence. ehrnst Feb 2020 #97

In 30 years Bernie has never passed any legislation that does anything Squinch Feb 2020 #33

Why sew division into the Democratic primaries? bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #48

Liz threatens corporate interests, she is the only one wall street is worried about Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #40

You are correct. Wall Street and big Business can't stand her. flying_wahini Feb 2020 #45

Who has DONE more to actually hold corporate execs accountable? blm Feb 2020 #44

Yes, Warren. flying_wahini Feb 2020 #46

+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #47

In my case I guess it's simply pure body language. tavernier Feb 2020 #54

Ok, since you asked: beastie boy Feb 2020 #58

If you're right about #2, then Bernie is clearly the most electable candidate. DanTex Feb 2020 #66

Not necessarily. beastie boy Feb 2020 #75

I'm not talking about Democrats to the exclusion of every other voter. DanTex Feb 2020 #78

I wasn't to crazy to divert from your OP either, but you responded with what seemed to be important beastie boy Feb 2020 #79

Fair enough, that makes sense. DanTex Feb 2020 #85

Here's another paradox: The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #59

I guess you missed his crusade to end wealth inequality floppyboo Feb 2020 #94

Would that mean that everybody has the same amount of money The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #96

No!! That's crazy!! floppyboo Feb 2020 #99

They're really afraid mountain grammy Feb 2020 #62

excellent post! LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #65

Examples of Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies for $500, Alex. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #74

WARREN is the bigger corporate threat than is Bernie. SHE knows how to beat corporations. He doesn't ancianita Feb 2020 #83

I am with you with a lot of this. BlueWI Feb 2020 #90

Sanders is literally a threat to no one national or world stage. krissey Feb 2020 #84

Neither are saviors Skidmore Feb 2020 #95

trump really wants to run against a weak and unelectable candidate like sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #98