Democratic Primaries

33taw

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152. It seems that regardless of who is nominated there will be fracturing.

Tue Feb 18, 2020, 06:15 PM

Feb 2020

But, some of us will have to make concessions if our preferred candidate does not win the nomination. I will vote for whomever is the nominee. We can’t afford to lose the election because of sore feelings.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Nominating Bloomberg will fracture the party. [View all] redqueen Feb 2020 OP

So would nominating Bernie... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #1

I agree nt gollygee Feb 2020 #5

I agree nt NYFlip Feb 2020 #160

Agree and scared. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #11

Scared because you have limited your reading to Obama's time in the White House and... DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #103

Not afraid of Bernie's policies and feel assured he believes in every cause he espouses and feels emmaverybo Feb 2020 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #14

I would be excited about any of those. The problem is that none of them are going to win redstateblues Feb 2020 #71

Or, Trump has more and bigger flaws that will knock him out of the race. NCjack Feb 2020 #107

I feel the same way. pistdem Feb 2020 #77

Me too! rainy Feb 2020 #132

Polls say otherwise Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #17

Sanders didn't win Iowa. There's no such thing as "popular vote" in a caucus. CalFione Feb 2020 #24

If 7 in 10 Democrats don't want Sanders... AverageJoe Feb 2020 #74

True! So everyone who hates Bernie can just relax :) redqueen Feb 2020 #78

I don't think saying that everybody hates Sanders is fair Butterflylady Feb 2020 #90

False - when moderates are split between too many good choices, unelectable extremists win Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #94

Sanders is not in the least bit extreme. His policies are traditional Democratic. DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #108

Even if that were entirely true, and it's not, his constant bashing and alienating rhetoric Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #163

If that were the scenario at the convention AverageJoe Feb 2020 #126

That assumes that nobody else drops out. McTwisty Feb 2020 #128

Not necessarily true. Whichever candidate comes to the convention with the most delegates, but not still_one Feb 2020 #111

I suspect a nominee more palatable to moderates AverageJoe Feb 2020 #130

I think it will be a mess unless a candidate comes to the convention with enough still_one Feb 2020 #135

No, I think you're right AverageJoe Feb 2020 #140

Yup still_one Feb 2020 #141

Unfortunately he can easily win the nom with 30% in each state Recursion Feb 2020 #186

SDEs no longer determine convention delegates Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #79

Jacobin Magazine is an anti-Democratic Party publication lapucelle Feb 2020 #113

What makes you think 7/10 don't want him at all? FBaggins Feb 2020 #154

Bill Clinton lost the first 6 contests Butterflylady Feb 2020 #87

So we should be rallying behind whoever loses the first 6 states? Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #95

Pete Buttegeig won Iowa and currently leads in delegates.N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #104

We'll see how it goes. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #109

The first two steps in a 20 mile marathon illustrate so very little. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #116

Polls show Sanders with a plurality of support among Democrats... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #120

I'm so disappointed Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #148

Yes, let's rely on Facts.. Pete Won Iowa. Cha Feb 2020 #149

It ain't over til it's over Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #171

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Feb 2020 #23

I agree as well. And the DNC is letting it happen. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #32

The polling so far doesn't seem to back you up. Boulevardier Feb 2020 #34

You can't use polls anymore to back up what will happen in the GE Butterflylady Feb 2020 #97

All but Michigan within the MOE... Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #121

yes MoMof6 Feb 2020 #35

I agree. nt jrthin Feb 2020 #40

Yup. We're in grave danger. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #105

Agreed. MBS Feb 2020 #106

Agree ebbie15644 Feb 2020 #177

Bernie won't alienate moderate voters in PA, WI or MI juliuswest Feb 2020 #189

Wall Street is worried about some of the candidates. eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #2

Bernie can't win the GE. America will not elect a Socialist in 2020 redstateblues Feb 2020 #3

Opinions are not facts. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #7

My entire family refuses to vote for a Socialist interloper. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #44

Bazinga! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #46

But you will vote for the frontrunner Bernie Sanders Lordquinton Feb 2020 #49

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I do not have a response for you, either. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #62

Better that than posting one and deleting it. George II Feb 2020 #72

Bazinga! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #86

LOL SunSeeker Feb 2020 #147

Isn't it odd that folks seem to be erasing Pete's Iowa win and his frontrunner status lapucelle Feb 2020 #169

"When?" You mean "if..." ehrnst Feb 2020 #156

Pete Buttegieg is the frontrunner. He has the most delegates. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #167

He is not a socialist. He is a Democratic socialist. AllyCat Feb 2020 #93

I don't think you're wrong. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #4

I wish people would scratch below the surface just a little bit. redqueen Feb 2020 #10

So we're just gonna ignore Bernies view on women? SDANation Feb 2020 #13

Hey, welcome ! Go back to archive 2016 if you want all the vetting over that. Its done. Baked. over. floppyboo Feb 2020 #15

So you think republicans are gonna call hands off cause it's sooo 2016? SDANation Feb 2020 #16

meh. they like trump. would this be a positive or negative story? floppyboo Feb 2020 #19

Haha true! SDANation Feb 2020 #21

Here's where Bloomberg is running strongest ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #6

"If Bloomberg can eat into Biden's support among black voters..." He already is brooklynite Feb 2020 #33

It's definitely an eye-opener for this long time Democrat. I thought Bush/Cheney were the worst ever jalan48 Feb 2020 #8

America will not elect a socialist for president left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #9

Bloomberg and his polling disagrees with you Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #22

There are only two choices in the GE. BlueWI Feb 2020 #88

"Any Democratic nominee has a good chance against Trump" left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #99

Nothing can be taken for granted of course. BlueWI Feb 2020 #115

I don't think it will. I think we'll be united in defeating Trump. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #12

Trump fears Bloomberg nobuddy Feb 2020 #18

As a Biden supporter..just an fyi..Bloomberg has hit the ground asiliveandbreathe Feb 2020 #20

I received my first text from Bloomberg's campaign murielm99 Feb 2020 #114

The party is already fractured. MineralMan Feb 2020 #25

2008 Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #36

Yeah, OK. That, too. MineralMan Feb 2020 #37

Honestly, I think the recession did more damage than that primary. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #48

Since 1968 H2O Man Feb 2020 #53

I was home on leave after 15 months on the shores of the Black Sea MineralMan Feb 2020 #59

It was a strange H2O Man Feb 2020 #69

Our country's history has gone up and down multiple times, MineralMan Feb 2020 #170

I'll take Bloomberg over BS and his bro's anyday ! stonecutter357 Feb 2020 #27

As will a Democratic Socialist evertonfc Feb 2020 #28

Bloomberg has A LOT of baggage, but so does Bernie--they are both problematic andym Feb 2020 #29

Agreed customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #30

I don't get the thinking that says Bloomberg can win any easier than Bernie could. redqueen Feb 2020 #39

I agree customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #47

I doubt Bloomberg ever had to ask anyone for favors. redqueen Feb 2020 #55

He didn't go from being an almost nobody customerserviceguy Feb 2020 #61

Sad for Trump. He's not a pimple on Bloomberg's ass. redqueen Feb 2020 #64

Nothing we can do about voting refusers. They prefer TRUMP delisen Feb 2020 #31

Spot on ! DaDeacon Feb 2020 #143

Nominating Sanders would fracture the party...at least Bloomberg might win. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #38

So would Bloomberg. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #42

We have no chance with Sanders. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #43

I would add that I would love Biden to win...I have supported him from the beginning. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #54

My panic about Bernie is two things.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #41

How true. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #138

That's my fear too, but I think Bernie has a chance to beat Trump dustyscamp Feb 2020 #150

Trump and RW media will make it all about the economy. honest.abe Feb 2020 #155

What do you think nominating Sanders will do? Renew Deal Feb 2020 #45

Isn't that opening always there? redqueen Feb 2020 #50

Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2020 #51

There will be an advertising spree on both JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #56

Exactly so. Tbh I used this headline to draw a counterpoint to people saying redqueen Feb 2020 #58

Enough of the infighting Rider3 Feb 2020 #57

RIght back at you nominating Sanders. But Sanders people don't care, as a matter of fact, krissey Feb 2020 #63

I wish. redqueen Feb 2020 #68

It is the smartest thing to do. I can only hope we will choose smart. We use to as Dems, then along krissey Feb 2020 #70

Obama? redqueen Feb 2020 #76

No. I was an Obama. There was a couple times both went over the line a tad, and just a tad. krissey Feb 2020 #80

The only reason many of us would even consider a Bloomberg vote is because of the bridges burned krissey Feb 2020 #82

That tells me very little. So what is the support for Bloomberg based on? redqueen Feb 2020 #118

I am not a spiteful person. If that tells you very little, I know I do not want to spend my time krissey Feb 2020 #144

Ok. Welcome to DU. nt redqueen Feb 2020 #145

The party is already fractured redstateblues Feb 2020 #65

meh, at the end of the day, whomever the nominee is...I will vote for them. Javaman Feb 2020 #66

Bloomberg is dangerous. Red Oak Feb 2020 #67

And millions of Independents might take their place. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #81

Your comment is comical and ironic Red Oak Feb 2020 #172

Some of the richest Democratic Presidents safeinOhio Feb 2020 #175

But they were never Republicans Red Oak Feb 2020 #176

Those working men elected Tramp. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #179

A guess you like Bloomie's Republican policies? Red Oak Feb 2020 #181

Perhaps the least of all, but safeinOhio Feb 2020 #182

Do you like them better than voting for a different Red Oak Feb 2020 #183

Divide and conquer. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #184

Bloomberg is the one dividing the party. Not me. Red Oak Feb 2020 #185

Ok get your facts straight. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #187

Warren saw how people in Wall Street, like Bloomberg, are and she saw how the Republican supported Red Oak Feb 2020 #188

Or like Warren safeinOhio Feb 2020 #190

I would like to remind you who we are running against Red Oak Feb 2020 #191

Bloomberg will not win the nomination bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #75

I agree about him going full repuke rockfordfile Feb 2020 #83

Yup Magoo48 Feb 2020 #101

Agreed, He was Republican when Kavanaugh was crying about beer and attempted rape. MasonDreams Feb 2020 #110

Uggggghh this list could just go on and on. redqueen Feb 2020 #129

That's like saying Bernie, if elected, will go full Socialist. Both are not true redstateblues Feb 2020 #117

I agree, both are not true. But look at where Bloomberg IS now !! MasonDreams Feb 2020 #139

Bullshit EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #84

if you are promising NOT to vote for the Dem nominee then that's ON YOU! EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #85

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #102

You mean like someone who has never really made much of a legislative splash in 30 years Squinch Feb 2020 #125

Why are you yelling at me about that? redqueen Feb 2020 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #136

The sky is falling. The sky is falling. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #89

Honestly, every time I log into DU, there is another post about AllyCat Feb 2020 #91

America elected FDR FOUR TIMES! James48 Feb 2020 #92

People back in 1932 said the same thing about FDR Warpy Feb 2020 #96

We DO have such a candidate . James48 Feb 2020 #134

Bernie would be fought tooth and nail by Congress Warpy Feb 2020 #146

WOW this coming from a Sanders supporter whistler162 Feb 2020 #98

VOTE BLUE NO MATER WHO! dsharp88 Feb 2020 #100

What I worry about with Bloomberg Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #112

Oh shit, yeah... redqueen Feb 2020 #133

Fracturing the Party JGug1 Feb 2020 #119

Understood. calimary Feb 2020 #122

it's all irrelevant. removing trump is the only issue AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #123

"Nominating Bloomberg will fracture the party. myohmy2 Feb 2020 #124

If Bloomberg runs against Trump, Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #137

I don't think is will be too devastating to the party, the Democratic party is pretty flexible yaesu Feb 2020 #127

My priority right here and right now is throwing Orange Hitler out Cary Feb 2020 #142

that would be so f'n classic d_b Feb 2020 #151

Why do you hope it happens? Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #164

It seems that regardless of who is nominated there will be fracturing. 33taw Feb 2020 #152

👀 underpants Feb 2020 #153

But nominating Bernie won't fracture the party...you are right because we are ADULTS. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #158

We already are fractured...the question is which candidate can unify the electorate pecosbob Feb 2020 #159

Can I rent a cave room? Hahaha. Red Oak Feb 2020 #174

But Bernie is ok? The irony is Bernie isn't even a Democrat. He won't win the GE. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #161

He never endorsed a Republican President at a National Republican Convention n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #168

OK redqueen, youve officially won Post of the Day...Johnnie, tell everyone what redqueen has won!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #162

Great and accurate post. Not sure why posts of mine about Bloomberg got removed. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #165

Nominating Bloomberg will give 4 more years to Trump. He can afford it, we peons can't. Autumn Feb 2020 #166

At least Bloomberg wants to beat Trump robbedvoter Feb 2020 #173

What's the evidence for your claim that Bernie wants to "blow up the Democratic party"? redqueen Feb 2020 #178

Please and Bernie's won't. Historic NY Feb 2020 #180