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gollygee

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13. You underestimate how many people Trump appeals to

Wed Feb 19, 2020, 09:41 AM

Feb 2020

There are so many people here deluded about what people in middle America like. The things we dislike most about Bloomberg are the things a great deal of people will like best. Not in NY or Cali but elsewhere, and we have to win state by state, not by popular vote. I think it's a sad statement that he'd be so popular, and yet here we are. This is the state of America today.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Is Bloomberg the Trump knock off? I don't see that as appealing to anyone. [View all] uponit7771 Feb 2020 OP

Mike Bloomberg is a Libertarian-Leaning Progressive. lapucelle Feb 2020 #1

This is not based on Bloomberg's RECORD of being mayor in NY. I don't see how enacting an openly uponit7771 Feb 2020 #2

That's why I included a link to the data that the assessment is based on. N/T lapucelle Feb 2020 #3

I changed the response to record, Bloomberg's record in NY is different from his stances he's uponit7771 Feb 2020 #4

The data I linked to does not support that claim. lapucelle Feb 2020 #7

The data you linked doesn't have all of Bloomberg's standings on racial profiling uponit7771 Feb 2020 #18

The data is based on Bloombergs's years as mayor. lapucelle Feb 2020 #11

The data does not include Bloomberg's views on racial profiling uponit7771 Feb 2020 #20

Bloomberg's policies, statements and actions, duforsure Feb 2020 #5

+1, I pray this is the case before Biden runs out of money. I'll support him to the end the number uponit7771 Feb 2020 #6

Here are his policies, statements, and actions. lapucelle Feb 2020 #9

No, this doesn't have Bloombergs overtly racist statements in support of racial profiling uponit7771 Feb 2020 #12

During Bloomberg's time as Mayor denem Feb 2020 #19

Irrelevant, he didn't have to enact overtly racist statement & racial profiling to achieve that uponit7771 Feb 2020 #22

Can you find an example of another big city denem Feb 2020 #26

That didn't enact racism to not affect anything? Sure, any city 1 million metro area ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #38

That reported a 50% fall in murders of young black men? denem Feb 2020 #43

This could be done without racism, there are no facts to back up the opposite view uponit7771 Feb 2020 #45

Here - I did a quick lookup for LA denem Feb 2020 #49

Great, we agree the bad numbers fell in LA without enacted racism to do it that it didn't happen uponit7771 Feb 2020 #51

I would not say the LAPD acts without racism, denem Feb 2020 #52

True, they act without a written policy of racism while Bloomberg and Trump have written uponit7771 Feb 2020 #54

Because beating trump is my 100% priority, denem Feb 2020 #59

The analysts at On the Issues don't cherry pick de-contextualized statements, lapucelle Feb 2020 #25

Bloomberg's racism as a policy in NY was not stand alone and analyst here left that out completely uponit7771 Feb 2020 #39

Objective analysts aren't good at providing bias confirmation for loaded terms lapucelle Feb 2020 #47

Bloomberg enacted Racial Profiling is a fact, loaded term or not and these analyst left that out uponit7771 Feb 2020 #50

Mike Bloomberg's record on and apology for Stop and Frisk is included in the data lapucelle Feb 2020 #55

SQF is legal and moral and not racial profiling. Bloomberg's conflation of the two is of the reasons uponit7771 Feb 2020 #57

The questions concerning SQF are complicated. Bloomberg admitted that he was wrong, lapucelle Feb 2020 #60

Is anyone a trump knockoff? dubyadiprecession Feb 2020 #8

I agree Donald Trump is the closest America has come to a TEXT BOOK genocidal racist but ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #15

Bloomberg will knock Trump off. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #10

You underestimate how many people Trump appeals to gollygee Feb 2020 #13

True, so why wont people just take the genuine vs the fake democrat? Also, are people discounting .. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #16

I think he can win but I think Biden can win too gollygee Feb 2020 #28

I don't think Bloomberg can win just like I don't see Sanders wining. The swing state numbers uponit7771 Feb 2020 #31

I think either Biden or Bloomberg could win Michigan gollygee Feb 2020 #58

A con man to take on a con man. No thanks. This is about protecting... polichick Feb 2020 #14

+1, I pray democrats understand Bloomberg is the fake democrat that will be rejected for the genuine uponit7771 Feb 2020 #17

In all my years on earth, the thing that has freaked me out the most... polichick Feb 2020 #62

No; Trump is one of a kind (fortunately). The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #21

The Bloomberg is just better than Trump when the opposite of Trump is what is needed. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #27

Wasn't it Bloomberg when mayor of NYC had the law changed so he could run for a third term? LiberalArkie Feb 2020 #34

YES !!! On balance Bloomberg is the car that sounds like it will start but doesn't when America need uponit7771 Feb 2020 #42

Kind of like a mini-Putin. LiberalArkie Feb 2020 #61

Bloomberg should have run as a Republican to take on Trump DesertRat Feb 2020 #23

THIS !!!! I'm not fooled by his left swings when he appealed to people like Trump for a reason. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #29

Bigoted racist New York personality? Sure! As long as he's OUR bigoted racist New York personality! WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #24

Then that's better than Trump when the country wants opposite of Trump. Truman said the genuine wins uponit7771 Feb 2020 #30

Really? Certainly appealing to lots of our very own DUers.... Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #32

True but they're convinced Bloomberg can win the swing states when there's no evidence of this. ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #35

I don't think he appeals to many people, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #37

THANK YOU !!! Bloomberg's swing state numbers are no better than anyone else's !!! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #40

Bloomberg strong on abortion & women' s health. No Trumper delisen Feb 2020 #33

So do the human rights of PoC, again ... some left leaning but on balance he's right uponit7771 Feb 2020 #36

Bloomberg has been strong on gun control and climate change for many years. honest.abe Feb 2020 #41

We agree on those issues but on balance his RECORD is right leaning socially. Bloomberg's swing stat uponit7771 Feb 2020 #44

Then he is not a "Trump knockoff". honest.abe Feb 2020 #46

Yes, he's the closest we have to Trumps views and he has no swing state appeal. Swing states... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #48

I dont see it that way. honest.abe Feb 2020 #53

OK, this thread convinced me Bloomberg is better than Trump and that's still bad. The country uponit7771 Feb 2020 #56

After being bombarded with Bloomberg ads, I was thinking yeah this guy looks good Baked Potato Feb 2020 #63

+1, Biden is beating him in swing states. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #64