Democratic Primaries

Tweedy

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158. Is he?

Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:37 PM

Feb 2020

Wonder what people thought of the revelation that his advisers believe Medicare for all will never pass.

Bernie is adorable in his angry 😡 way. He is a bit stuck in the 1960's for my taste, "establishment," how heavy man!

Would suspect young people would prefer a candidate fully landed in the 21st century, but who can say but the young themselves

Hope to see a large surge in young voters, this is their future we are debating, after all! So far, no one has drawn them forth even so much as Barack Obama. Hope you are right and that will be changing.

Right now, Senator Sanders has a bit more than one quarter. Perhaps we should wait for a consensus, at least, before examining our consciences for what? the failure to become a Bernie Bro?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why is Bernie so popular? [View all] kentuck Feb 2020 OP

Excellent post! All you have to do is listen to what Bernie is sayin... he speaks truth to power InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #1

Can you be more specific though? OneGrassRoot Feb 2020 #3

Definitely both, but more of the former and less of the latter. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #12

Its like being stuck in a time warp........... Historic NY Feb 2020 #129

Which means: kentuck Feb 2020 #130

Just don't ask him about his medical records.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #70

Why is Trump So Popular Among Republicans? TomCADem Feb 2020 #2

Trump is a cult leader... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #165

No one has question disndat Feb 2020 #4

Maybe stop giving so much money to the military industrial complex womanofthehills Feb 2020 #115

He's popular because his policies are popular, and people trust his consistency. DanTex Feb 2020 #5

All this and he is showing that lefties can fight as hard as anyone aikoaiko Feb 2020 #15

THIS!! WELL SAID!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #16

Yes, about that consistency.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #39

well said KayF Feb 2020 #148

Well said. A question remains, why is he so UN-popular on DU? mysteryowl Feb 2020 #195

I would guess that DU demographics lean older than the electorate as a whole. DanTex Feb 2020 #196

Interesting, that could be. mysteryowl Feb 2020 #198

Sander's popularity is exposing the troubles at140 Feb 2020 #6

Simply put... Bernie has the backs of We The People. We've been lookin for our Champion InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #107

You don't delve too deeply with your question Beringia Feb 2020 #7

I will leave that to you. kentuck Feb 2020 #13

I am looking but cannot find it. katmondoo Feb 2020 #155

Promising to give away free shit is popular? Zolorp Feb 2020 #8

He's offering change Bettie Feb 2020 #90

Well said! mountain grammy Feb 2020 #146

+1 n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #159

Superb post. John Fante Feb 2020 #184

Yep. A lot of folks recognize that we're running out of time to make the necessary changes. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #190

So healthcare for all and a living wage is now free shit womanofthehills Feb 2020 #116

Exactly,,,,,I got mine, heck with you! at140 Feb 2020 #121

Raising minimum wage is NOT giving away anything at140 Feb 2020 #119

Rational investments Tweedy Feb 2020 #151

Senator Sander talked about raising min wage in 2007 to $15 an hour. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #166

I would raise minimum wage to $17.50/hour at140 Feb 2020 #168

Why not $25? ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #171

A journey of 1000 miles begins with small steps.. at140 Feb 2020 #172

We are in agreement with the small steps... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #174

$15 is already in place in many locations! Going to $17.50 is a small step right? at140 Feb 2020 #179

$15 min wage in many locations, Great! All over america... unfortunately no. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #181

It's generational demographic redistribution bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #9

Here's what my daughter and son in law said: ginnyinWI Feb 2020 #10

"Not unlike the trump cult" handmade34 Feb 2020 #52

12 years the min wage has stagnated. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #167

Elizabeth Warren is a rare opportunity for this country in 2020 at140 Feb 2020 #194

Would Sanders be an effective President? Rorey Feb 2020 #11

He'll have support from at least half of congress juliuswest Feb 2020 #105

I suspect the average DUer is older than the average Sanders supporter. That affects everything. LonePirate Feb 2020 #14

Bernie will energize more republicans to turn out to vote against him... dubyadiprecession Feb 2020 #17

As I've said in a previous thread Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #22

Scumbag GOPer Hugh Hewitt said he's voting for Bernie in the VA primary. JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #30

It's a classic tactic. xmas74 Feb 2020 #97

Agree. Skidmore Feb 2020 #47

but more independents will vote for him womanofthehills Feb 2020 #117

"Why do so many young people support him?" JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #18

so, selfishness?? PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #20

Not any more than other voters. (nt) JaneQPublic Feb 2020 #23

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #89

Weed is becoming legal pretty much everywhere without Bernie. 33taw Feb 2020 #106

Why is Bernie not a Democrat?? Why not commit to the Party instead of using it for your own purposes PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #19

Because he makes extravagant promises to people The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #21

THIS!!!! Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #25

could not have said that any better myself Velevteen! Kudos... berksdem Feb 2020 #57

+100000 Pachamama Feb 2020 #78

Yes...extravagant promises that are not exposed on primary level Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #111

A lot of them DO understand how government works Bettie Feb 2020 #112

+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #125

Exactly. If I thought he could fulfill half is promises, I'd be for him too. Same for Warren. Hoyt Feb 2020 #126

Yes. Sparkly Feb 2020 #139

Yep. And some Democrats are in areas that are VERY moderate almost red. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #153

Most people don't think being able to see a doctor mountain grammy Feb 2020 #163

It's extravagant in the sense that he's making people believe that he can deliver it, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #170

Back in the 60"s when Democrats mountain grammy Feb 2020 #197

That's not the point. The point is that he's promising voters The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #199

So, what I hear you saying is mountain grammy Feb 2020 #200

A candidate shouldn't campaign on promising something he can't deliver. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #202

Never once heard any of our candidates mountain grammy Feb 2020 #204

Gee, his voters must be real idiots. Boulevardier Feb 2020 #185

I know of no one who likes him-including me. wisteria Feb 2020 #24

It was a tie with Sanders receiving 9 delegates and Buttigieg receiving 9 delegates in NH. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #173

He has about 30% support. Is that your measure of popularity? still_one Feb 2020 #26

The others have 75-85 percent who don't support them jimfields33 Feb 2020 #71

Because that isn't how it works and you realize it. There are too many candidates running with still_one Feb 2020 #79

Duh. Free College which will never happen redstateblues Feb 2020 #27

I wish colleges would step up and use their huge endowments jimfields33 Feb 2020 #84

How much do you think they will charge when the recipient pays nothing? MichMan Feb 2020 #205

I would imagine they'll apply like today. jimfields33 Feb 2020 #206

tell that to the undecided trumpers we are trying to win over..that message is too scary for them samnsara Feb 2020 #28

I have a hunch that his supporters tend to be low information Dream Girl Feb 2020 #29

you had best sit down for the money quote ...... rampartc Feb 2020 #31

Bullshit. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #35

I believe Churchill answered this question back when: beastie boy Feb 2020 #32

Churchill never said that tishaLA Feb 2020 #56

You are right. It had been attributed to a whole bunch of people beastie boy Feb 2020 #60

I have my suspicions. Evergreen Emerald Feb 2020 #33

So you think Hillary did a poor job of vetting Sanders? I don't Apollo Zeus Feb 2020 #45

Not Hillary, the press. Hillary did not go as negative as she could have. Evergreen Emerald Feb 2020 #50

A 2015-2016 heart attack? Damn, I thought it was just the 2019 heart attack. ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #175

He's the only politician that gives young people hope. Autumn Feb 2020 #34

I don't know any Dems that support him. Alliepoo Feb 2020 #36

I live in NM, and most people I know support Bernie womanofthehills Feb 2020 #118

2008 Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #37

well said. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #51

How often does a candidate do as well as Sanders did in 2016 not ever get a chance at a run on top Johonny Feb 2020 #38

When you promise free stuff to a lot of people Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #40

When you focus on the importance of a living wage and affordable healthcare and the climate crisis JudyM Feb 2020 #58

Which all the candidates have done Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #59

Qualitatively different. That's why he's popular. JudyM Feb 2020 #64

Don't put words in my mouth Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #95

Your words: " When you promise free stuff to a lot of people you get popular." JudyM Feb 2020 #98

Maybe Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #108

Maybe it's largely projection. Maybe these disenfranchised people actually value more than JudyM Feb 2020 #109

Maybe Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #114

Not true! You've bought into a complete falsehood. JudyM Feb 2020 #122

Correction Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #132

Research I've linked shows AA voters under 45 prefer Sanders, and that women under 45 comprise JudyM Feb 2020 #133

So women are Bernie Bros? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #134

Reading comprehension:Sanders is top choice of AAs under 45, no parsing for education. JudyM Feb 2020 #135

Doesn't make them his largest block of supporters Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #136

I will post this again: women under 45 are his primary base, and many of them are AA. Here's proof. JudyM Feb 2020 #137

Many of them? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #141

If you'd actually open the links... JudyM Feb 2020 #144

I did Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #150

Excerpt: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #189

Nice spin Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #191

LOL. If that's what you mean, it's doubly true for every other candidate. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #210

Doubly?? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #211

What I've seen says it's still Biden. Sparkly Feb 2020 #140

But it's not just free stuff. It's peace of mind and getting closer to a more perfect union. Politicub Feb 2020 #66

And so do the other candidates Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #94

"free stuff" nobuddy Feb 2020 #74

Then you must be new here Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #96

How about the roads we drive on. The schools we send our kids to. kcr Feb 2020 #182

Welcome to DU, at140 Feb 2020 #169

He only appears to be more popular. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #41

The number that show up at the polls is the final arbiter on popularity ehrnst Feb 2020 #42

That was back when? Probably need to index those numbers to now. :) LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #49

Nader? ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #176

No one said that he did. I just said he drew huge crowds and was considered popular, and ehrnst Feb 2020 #192

Easy, he offers u free everything awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #43

I like he has 3 houses including a camp like most Vermonters. dem4decades Feb 2020 #102

Whats not to like? He is advocating against the system. He explains it very well in cold numbers. jmg257 Feb 2020 #44

Because in 2016 bernie completely transformed the Democratic Party with issues jimfields33 Feb 2020 #46

Yeah, right. No Democrat ever cared about income inequality, health care, higher minimum wage, and highplainsdem Feb 2020 #48

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #53

Maybe cared. But didn't speak up at all jimfields33 Feb 2020 #73

seriously handmade34 Feb 2020 #54

"Single handedly?" Um, no. Ted Kennedy was working on Single Payer back in 1971 ehrnst Feb 2020 #61

Ok. Do you think al Gore was able to have people to seriously look at it jimfields33 Feb 2020 #75

That Pulitzer Prize was awarded to him for raising awareness of climate change. ehrnst Feb 2020 #91

We were all young and stupid idealists once too CalFione Feb 2020 #55

Real popularity is confirmed at the Polls. Nader was drawing crowds of 15,000 ehrnst Feb 2020 #62

Bernie resonates with youth because youth have keen BS detectors. Alex4Martinez Feb 2020 #63

Consistent? You mean like when he says he's going to release his comprehensive medical records ehrnst Feb 2020 #67

My take is that he represents a complete departure from the system that is no longer working Politicub Feb 2020 #65

Denmark has nearly twice the billionaires per capita as the US... ehrnst Feb 2020 #68

I have no problem with billionaires who don't use their money to make life harder for people. Politicub Feb 2020 #88

But what do you make of Sanders' statements that Billionaires and not and will not exist in ehrnst Feb 2020 #93

It was a strange comment. I don't know how Sweden's system Politicub Feb 2020 #113

I'm an older voter... it's priorities. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #69

He ran last time, people know him. maxsolomon Feb 2020 #72

popular? evertonfc Feb 2020 #76

Dems lose the Senate with Bernie on the ballot aeromanKC Feb 2020 #77

Personally I think he would get crushed in the GE, NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #80

He is consistent. roody Feb 2020 #81

Who is it that said ... frazzled Feb 2020 #82

It's an intangible, like Trump's supporters. Some, (obviously not all) of his supporters madibella Feb 2020 #83

He isn't so popular but the people he ahs makes lots of noise. Trump is not so popular, but again, krissey Feb 2020 #85

I think he's selling a fantasy... cynatnite Feb 2020 #86

Problem is HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #99

Pandering works. Just my opinion, part II LanternWaste Feb 2020 #87

+1 nt Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #103

Free stuff is always popular HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #92

So are vapid bumper-sticker caliber yokel witticisms like "Free stuff is always popular" Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #100

But they often work HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #101

People believe musicman65 Feb 2020 #104

Pandering along with grievance politics... Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #110

Sanders' support is quite high among Hispanic/Latino and black voters under 45. BlueWI Feb 2020 #145

The key is to speak to them the same, but without talking about raising taxes on everyone else maximusveritas Feb 2020 #147

There are definitely overreaches in Sanders' rhetoric - I agree. BlueWI Feb 2020 #156

I think the facts disagree with much of what you're saying here: Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #149

A few quick points. BlueWI Feb 2020 #154

Social media created a character that ecstatic Feb 2020 #120

Tens of millions recognize that fundamental changes are desperately needed. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #123

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #124

In 2015, DU polled WIDELY in favor of Sanders Bonobo Feb 2020 #131

I am on 3 Democratic town and county committees and, amazingly, the primaries aren't... TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #127

Another thought-- never forget that half the population is below average. TreasonousBastard Feb 2020 #128

He's not all that popular. More turned out in NH last week yet he got half as many votes. George II Feb 2020 #161

Beats me lanlady Feb 2020 #138

I support Senator Sanders because... mike_c Feb 2020 #142

He looks like a tough old coot who will give Trump what's what. McCamy Taylor Feb 2020 #143

His 25-30% doesn't make him "so popular." pnwmom Feb 2020 #152

Because they fail to understand that liking a candidate and their ideas isn't enough. musicblind Feb 2020 #157

Is he? Tweedy Feb 2020 #158

He's about half as popular as he was several years ago. George II Feb 2020 #160

i wanted him in 2016. i am unopposed to him this time, tho i like pete. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #162

Well... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #164

We know better. democratisphere Feb 2020 #177

Those guardrails in the US Congress failed to stop a full-fledged doc03 Feb 2020 #178

Operation Chaos led by the GOP and Putin aeromanKC Feb 2020 #180

This as well Meowmee Feb 2020 #188

I'm not a Sanders supporter but I won't deny that he's talented at campaigning. Midwestern Democrat Feb 2020 #183

A simple message repeated with conviction. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #186

Free college Meowmee Feb 2020 #187

magnetic... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #193

1. College kids don't vote. 2. College kids are not the voters we need to target. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #201

Bernie is populist. lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #203

Americans like a patriarch liberalmediaaddict Feb 2020 #207

Well, they say the Russians are meddling in our primary. Perhaps they are helping Bernie because helpisontheway Feb 2020 #208

Is he? beathimlikeadrum Feb 2020 #209