Democratic Primaries

The Velveteen Ocelot

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25. Obama and B. Clinton were successful in getting the votes of people

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:43 PM

Feb 2020

who were suffering in various ways without frothing with anger all the time. Obama ran for president during the collapse of the national economy which caused more damage to more people than almost anything in recent memory apart from actual wars, but he didn't yell or appeal to anger. He offered hope, which is what people wanted and responded to. Bill Clinton attracted people with a vibe of warmth and kindness; he was able to reach out to people on a personal level. Even Reagan, awful as he was, got votes because he spoke in positive terms and seemed to have a sense of humor. His projected persona was the kindly grandpa, not the cranky old guy who chases kids off his lawn. Anger gets the adrenaline going and that feels good; that's why Trump attracts (some) angry people - he excites them with anger. I'd rather see a candidate excite people with hope.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie presents himself in a negative way, just like McGovern. [View all] Stuart G Feb 2020 OP

McGovern was trailing in the polls by huge margins the whole time. DanTex Feb 2020 #1

+1 jimfields33 Feb 2020 #2

You may think that the "electorate is entirely different", but Stuart G Feb 2020 #3

If he's so "offensive", how do you explain his poll numbers? DanTex Feb 2020 #12

You should not rely on poll numbers for a theoretical matchup. n/t Yavin4 Feb 2020 #16

OK, so what indication is there that Bernie is "offensive" other than one person's opinion? DanTex Feb 2020 #19

Apply that same question to the current adminsitration. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #17

Nobody has laid a glove on Sanders radius777 Feb 2020 #36

His poll numbers were higher in 2016. nt LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #38

Absolutely. No comparison. While a nice guy he was a terrible speaker and campaigner. Peregrine Took Feb 2020 #10

Old Man Yells At Cloud PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #4

Glad you said that. That's my honest impression Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #28

I'm put off by his staff. The thing about Bloomberg's heart attacks, for instance, bluedye33139 Feb 2020 #5

Bernie's staff and supporters have made major mistakes, but Stuart G Feb 2020 #7

Maybe they have been paid to disrupt. Pretty easy trick to pull off!! skh500 Feb 2020 #21

I do. I went to see the Jimmy Dore Show 2 weeks ago ... in the flesh ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #26

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #30

And Bloomberg calling him a communist didn't bother you? NT tiredtoo Feb 2020 #31

truth handmade34 Feb 2020 #6

My family supported McGovern as well, everyone except my Dad. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #8

We won't lose 40 states. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #14

I think we should do away with delegates nobuddy Feb 2020 #9

Let me say it again. McGovern's position on "stop the killing in Viet Nam War" was totally correct. Stuart G Feb 2020 #11

I don't recall that McGovern had a negative vibe like Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #13

Bernie seems angry skh500 Feb 2020 #24

Obama and B. Clinton were successful in getting the votes of people The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #25

His manner has been described as joyless. Seldom a smile. Narrow personality range. And emmaverybo Feb 2020 #29

This again? What is this, a weekly post? KPN Feb 2020 #15

When the country is about to be burned down you damn skippy - it should be a daily post. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #22

Defend your candidate, if he be worthy. Or you could just yell, I guess. PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #33

Blah, blah, blah. You defend yours. I've done that KPN Feb 2020 #34

I know McGovern is the buzzword nobuddy Feb 2020 #18

I must make this clear, if Bernie is our nominee, I will vote for him, and I will send money. Stuart G Feb 2020 #20

So will I...my deplorable co workers actually feel sorry for me about this Bernie bullshit. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #23

+1 I will in fact vote for the man quite happily (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #27

sanders could be worse than McGovern Gothmog Feb 2020 #32

The McGovern comparison is odious denem Feb 2020 #35

Obama Knows What You Mean, For Sure corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #37

Way too negative. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #39

Exactly. Worse than McGovern. Struggling to think of a politician who was more ill-tempered maximusveritas Feb 2020 #41

Yes. His style is off-putting. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #42

Yes and style is important. The adage about someone you'd like to have a beer with maximusveritas Feb 2020 #43

The above post number 41, needs to be read by all..please look at 41, and hit that link.. Stuart G Feb 2020 #47

James Clyburn thinks that sanders is like McGovern Gothmog Feb 2020 #40

You are a grizzled olster crying at to moon to Bernie supporters. Blue_true Feb 2020 #44

I appreciate that you care about the American People and the Democratic Party. Laelth Feb 2020 #45

He does seem angry most of the time.n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #46