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Gothmog

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29. sanders was ignored by the press-there is a ton of oppo that will be coming out
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 01:19 PM
Apr 2019

If Sanders had been the nominee, Trump would have destroyed him. Trump had a two foot thick book of oppo research on Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

They ignored the fact that Sanders had not yet faced a real campaign against him. Clinton was in the delicate position of dealing with a large portion of voters who treated Sanders more like the Messiah than just another candidate. She was playing the long game—attacking Sanders strongly enough to win, but gently enough to avoid alienating his supporters. Given her overwhelming support from communities of color—for example, about 70 percent of African-American voters cast their ballot for her—Clinton had a firewall that would be difficult for Sanders to breach....

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers....

The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I don’t know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.

I am very happy that sanders is being vetted this cycle.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #1
+1.nt Snotcicles Apr 2019 #3
Bernie hasn't been vetted? KPN Apr 2019 #2
The claim has been made that he wasn't really vetted when he ran in 2016 Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #5
He's the only one in this field who has run before, so it's puzzling why he's still so irked by ehrnst Apr 2019 #11
Questions about his tax returns, and seeing how he handles them, are 100% legitimate vetting n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #14
I hope that he and many his supporters come to that realization sooner than later. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #18
Biden has run before, twice, unless you mean only declared candidates now Celerity Apr 2019 #20
Yes. Until he declares, I personally don't consider him a candidate. ehrnst Apr 2019 #23
thanks for the clarification Celerity Apr 2019 #25
sanders was ignored by the press-there is a ton of oppo that will be coming out Gothmog Apr 2019 #29
Not nearly as thoroughly as HRC was, and not as thoroughly as previous Demcoratic candidates. ehrnst Apr 2019 #9
Well no one has been vetted as thoroughly as Hillary. No question about that -- or attacked KPN Apr 2019 #13
Did we ever see the Transcripts, the Public Side and the Private Side ? bahrbearian Apr 2019 #15
What transcripts are you talking about? ehrnst Apr 2019 #19
I think that's a reference to the speech transcripts for whatever relevance that has in 2019. George II Apr 2019 #36
I wonder if they are talking about "private" islamophobia, or "public" alignment with ehrnst Apr 2019 #41
Was there anything in them about cozying up to dictators? Islamophobia? ehrnst Apr 2019 #40
If you are talking about speech transcripts, mcar Apr 2019 #42
Did we miss the part where a candidate promised them, namahage Apr 2019 #48
Exactly. The only thorough job was done by NYDN BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #44
Yes, he often refuses to answer questions he doesn't like NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #45
sanders was treated with kid gloves last cycle Gothmog Apr 2019 #27
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #32
It appears like I'm upset? Where did you KPN Apr 2019 #34
Not the way other candidates have, either in the media or here. George II Apr 2019 #37
Which other ones? KPN Apr 2019 #38
There are those who equate the call for standard vetting of Democrats with "attacks." ehrnst Apr 2019 #4
I get your point Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #7
Yes, she cooperated full and didn't push back at all on the idea that she should be questioned. ehrnst Apr 2019 #16
No one took sanders seriously in 2016 and so sanders was not vetted Gothmog Apr 2019 #31
Funny how some are all for vetting except when it comes to their own candidate. Then it's a slur. jalan48 Apr 2019 #6
Vetting in 2020 includes how well you stand up to attacks. marylandblue Apr 2019 #8
True. Just call it what it is though Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #12
Other Democrats making valid points concerning candidates is not "attack politics." ehrnst Apr 2019 #17
Of course not. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #21
I think that the title of your OP created a perception that you are weighted towards ehrnst Apr 2019 #22
To be honest, until the "hands on" stuff rose up regarding Biden, I don't recall much... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #24
You seem to have missed an abundance of attack politics deployed against ehrnst Apr 2019 #26
Perhaps. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #30
Good. And agree, vetting must be honest and objective Hortensis Apr 2019 #10
When a candidate is blamed for an accusation brought up by a woman by the supporters of, and Autumn Apr 2019 #28
+1 Power 2 the People Apr 2019 #33
I don't have any posters blocked...or keywords for ignore... TCJ70 Apr 2019 #35
Right on. Spot on. Excellent post we KPN Apr 2019 #39
Hillary treated Bernie with kid gloves BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #43
The "Medicare for all" & "Living wage" & "Tuition free public college" platitudes that many... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #46
All those have different definitions BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #47
Bernie Sanders is "providing political cover" for Donald Trump not releasing his tax returns, Gothmog Apr 2019 #49
What will he be doing then if he releases them soon? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #50
All Democrats need to release their tax returns Gothmog Apr 2019 #51
What makes you think they really want to? BeckyDem Apr 2019 #52
Stephanie Ruhl-Could Bernie Sanders' tax returns drive his supporters away? Gothmog Apr 2019 #53
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