Democratic Primaries

wellst0nev0ter

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91. And a majority of democrats don't support Biden, Warren, Klobuchar etc

Reply to PatSeg (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:08 PM

Feb 2020

This is a dishonest argument, and you know it. Stop it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Please spare me the outrage about the "establishment" comment. [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

Yep - been there done that! jmg257 Feb 2020 #1

Yes, there is such a thing as the "Democratic establishment", it's known as the Democratic Party! George II Feb 2020 #2

Those are different things. Obviously. DanTex Feb 2020 #5

Which he refuses to be part. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #11

I can't support anyone who says there's "no difference" between Democrats and the GOP. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #20

or ignorance by choice. ...nt 2naSalit Feb 2020 #27

So you would have rather Bernie run third party? (NT) ripcord Feb 2020 #130

Please fill in the 2naSalit Feb 2020 #133

Poor, poor Bernie. Everyone is mean to him. Well... not everyone. Squinch Feb 2020 #3

Putin likes him. So there's that. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #22

If you don't vote for Bernie, you are Establishment dalton99a Feb 2020 #31

And don't forget an oligarch and a corporatist and a SJW. We are, truly, very very bad. Squinch Feb 2020 #47

Who gives a fuck about "mean"? Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #40

There's a group that wants to stop Biden, and one that wants to stop Liz and Squinch Feb 2020 #56

This. mzmolly Feb 2020 #69

The Bloomberg comparison is apt, the others aren't Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #87

Oh FFS. This is just more and more insistence on BS's victimhood. Squinch Feb 2020 #89

Offends all of us, trashes all of us. betsuni Feb 2020 #134

Let's Try Some Facts corbettkroehler Feb 2020 #72

You said it! It MUST be Bernie persecution! By the evil, evil establishment monster! Squinch Feb 2020 #78

Poor, poor moderates. Their candidates are faltering to a progressive for the first time in years Doremus Feb 2020 #81

When Russians are ratfucking for one of the candidates, that's kind of a slam dunk Squinch Feb 2020 #84

Progressives have been voting for and supporting moderates for decades. Is a little reciprocity too Doremus Feb 2020 #86

When its Putin's candidate so he can get Filthy Donnie elected? Um, yeah. That's way too much Squinch Feb 2020 #88

Yes, when it puts the country in danger. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #95

Stop getting in the way of the dominant narrative. Rational thought has no place here. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #4

+1 5X Feb 2020 #23

+2 Devil Child Feb 2020 #79

James Carville handmade34 Feb 2020 #6

So, "old" Democrats Roy Rolling Feb 2020 #97

Bernie will need all of us to vote for him. 33taw Feb 2020 #7

I can assure you that he is not offending 65% of the party. DanTex Feb 2020 #10

He needs all of us. 35% support him at this point. 33taw Feb 2020 #14

65%? Did he tell you that? Squinch Feb 2020 #34

No, I did the math. Bernie has captured about 27% of the vote to this point. 33taw Feb 2020 #90

Likely change? Yah, it could go sprinkleeninow Feb 2020 #115

I think support could go down for Bernie. That tweet was not his brightest move. 33taw Feb 2020 #116

No, I don't believe that it was. Detracting. Instead of advancing. sprinkleeninow Feb 2020 #118

lololol evertonfc Feb 2020 #8

Better than Bloomberg. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #15

I'd vote for Bloomberg over Sanders in a heartbeat. And so would most of the people here, highplainsdem Feb 2020 #25

Sure. A lot would Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #29

I would redstateblues Feb 2020 #132

+1 5X Feb 2020 #26

It does refer to the rank and file Jersey Devil Feb 2020 #9

Uh, no. The term for that is "Democratic rank and file", not "Democratic establishment". DanTex Feb 2020 #12

Oh, so who defines PatSeg Feb 2020 #19

The way the term is used is to refer to insiders like James Carville. DanTex Feb 2020 #24

So would that include Democratic insiders like PatSeg Feb 2020 #39

Yep. And everyone here damn well knows that's what he means. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #46

Oh, do tell. What have you named us? By what shall we be known? Squinch Feb 2020 #36

Ah - good. Do YOU fear Bernie being the Democratic candidate in the GE? jmg257 Feb 2020 #21

And according to most polls, PatSeg Feb 2020 #13

No, the "Democratic establishment" is less than 1% of Democrats. DanTex Feb 2020 #17

Once again PatSeg Feb 2020 #28

By Bernie's definition, which is also the standard definition. DanTex Feb 2020 #57

So you've talked to every Dem in the country? dware Feb 2020 #63

I've seen this movie many times before. DanTex Feb 2020 #66

So you don't know that it's just a small minority of Dems dware Feb 2020 #68

Oh, I'm sure every last one! PatSeg Feb 2020 #76

The Truck Stop I'm at right now just outside of Portland, OR, dware Feb 2020 #77

Are you serious? PatSeg Feb 2020 #80

Yep, even among the more conservative truckers I know, dware Feb 2020 #83

Thank you PatSeg Feb 2020 #85

Obviously, I think you're wrong PatSeg Feb 2020 #74

No, it isn't. You're choosing to define it that way because Sanders is attacking most of the party highplainsdem Feb 2020 #32

Still excusing what Bernie really means I see. dware Feb 2020 #52

Show me a link for that whopper. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #128

And a majority of democrats don't support Biden, Warren, Klobuchar etc wellst0nev0ter Feb 2020 #91

Berners are sure racking up the points awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #16

Establishment aka deep state Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #18

Wait for: oligarchs, corporatists, SJWs, and much, much more! It's coming! Squinch Feb 2020 #38

I'm waiting for revanchist running-dog traitors to the proletariat, with a touch of The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #101

Ooooh! I LIKE THOSE! Can I be the bourgeois tool??? That costume is the BEST! Squinch Feb 2020 #138

Bernie is for average working people who have been left on the sidelines. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #30

Then why doesn't he sell a couple of his homes and give the money away? highplainsdem Feb 2020 #35

He would be much more effective fighting for change on a macro level on the national stage. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #44

And he can walk barefoot and wear a hairshirt while he's at it wellst0nev0ter Feb 2020 #92

And what has he done in 30 years that makes you say that? What has Squinch Feb 2020 #45

He has been a lonely voice in the wilderness on a lot of occasions. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #48

how did that turn out handmade34 Feb 2020 #54

And just what do you think he can accomplish? dware Feb 2020 #59

So says you anyway. But IMHO Bernie's revolution will attract many disaffected first time totodeinhere Feb 2020 #67

IMO, you are dead wrong on this, dware Feb 2020 #70

God forbid. But if for some reason due to human nature and number sprinkleeninow Feb 2020 #117

Despite the fact that BS has never before attracted any numbers disaffected first time voters. Squinch Feb 2020 #140

Bwahahahahahaha!!!! Squinch Feb 2020 #62

During his 30 years in Congress he got a couple of post offices named. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #107

Spare me the apologist Brosplaining. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #33

This, many times over. Skidmore Feb 2020 #43

Right*******ON! Cha Feb 2020 #49

Aloha, Cha! sprinkleeninow Feb 2020 #119

Aloha, sprinkleen! Cha Feb 2020 #137

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #144

just posted on bernie's facebook Dawgman49 Feb 2020 #37

"he's got the victim theme going" pazzyanne Feb 2020 #114

Yes There Is And, By Choice, He's Part Of It Me. Feb 2020 #41

"Democratic Establishment" JennyMominFL Feb 2020 #42

🤣 😂 🤣 Tweedy Feb 2020 #50

Lord! snowybirdie Feb 2020 #51

Good luck in getting sanders platform adopted in real world Gothmog Feb 2020 #53

So tired of this guy attacking the party he wants the nomination of. What a foolish thing to say. brush Feb 2020 #55

All the knives are out for Bernie fallout87 Feb 2020 #58

Do you write for the Onion? dware Feb 2020 #64

Can you quantify those knives. How many exactly? rzemanfl Feb 2020 #143

When the real news should be traitortrump''s latest crime, empedocles Feb 2020 #60

Everyone knows that the Democratic establishment Progressive dog Feb 2020 #61

The biggest joke of all is Sanders is the very definition of establishment in all ways. krissey Feb 2020 #65

Tex, 65+ responses in under an hour irisblue Feb 2020 #71

If we AREN'T the Democratic establishment, I hope he will name us Vanessa. I always liked that name. Squinch Feb 2020 #75

Disappointed JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #73

Why should we spare you anything? Loki Liesmith Feb 2020 #82

The Left vs Establishment (GASP!) wellst0nev0ter Feb 2020 #93

well said questionseverything Feb 2020 #129

Well... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #94

He said the Dem establishment (the DNC) is trying to "stop" him. That is false. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #96

When unity is what we need to take this country back, Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #98

"Bernie isn't being "disloyal" when he publicly criticizes the party that he is running for? Nitram Feb 2020 #99

yep, it's like biting into a BK whopper & screaming that its not Filet Mignon. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #100

I keep hoping for five. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #102

Right on right on dominic savio Feb 2020 #103

..... musette_sf Feb 2020 #104

I'm pissed as hell about it and it was a dick move on his part. EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #105

Spare me the lack of situational awareness. Ponietz Feb 2020 #106

According to Bernie, Planned Parenthood is establishment... SidDithers Feb 2020 #108

No break to you. blue cat Feb 2020 #109

Maybe the "Democratic establishment" wants a Democrat Sunsky Feb 2020 #110

Please spare me the dismissal of an insult. krissey Feb 2020 #111

"Hostile Takeover" DallasNE Feb 2020 #112

Same Joy Reid who brought on a phony "body language expert" to smear Bernie? DanTex Feb 2020 #121

So A Smear Is Your Response? DallasNE Feb 2020 #122

Smear? What? I'm just pointing out that Joy Reid obviously doesn't like Bernie. DanTex Feb 2020 #123

You Smeared Reid For Having A "Phony" Body Language Expert DallasNE Feb 2020 #141

Here's the clip. You can judge. DanTex Feb 2020 #142

Quick, someone call Hillary for the democratic establishment. Then we'll be good. johnthewoodworker Feb 2020 #113

The comment is offensive because I'm sick of this false equivalence about both parties TeamPooka Feb 2020 #120

Well darn it if they didn't just mention the Democratic Establishment on CNN - LOL! jmg257 Feb 2020 #124

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #125

I beg to differ liberal N proud Feb 2020 #126

+ 1 musette_sf Feb 2020 #135

The Dem establishment doesn't want Bernie to be the nominee New Breed Leader Feb 2020 #127

"Establishment Dems," along with RepubliCONs are the reason... polichick Feb 2020 #131

OMG, please tell me this is satire. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #136

The irony.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #139