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peggysue2

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67. Sure, I've been listening to it as well as the admission that Joe Biden . . .

Fri Apr 5, 2019, 07:59 PM

Apr 2019

can flip Pennsylvania, that Trump is obsessed with that fact. The Trumpster went into a rage after listening to Biden's speech to the Electrical Union, not because of Biden's quip on hugs or personal space but because he's afraid the man is stealing his thunder with the unions.

Of course, this isn't the sort of PR Biden needs but it's what he has at the moment. As far as I'm concerned regardless of what the talking heads screech about, the vast majority of Democrats are interested in wiping the floor with Trump and his enablers. Electability is everything in 2020. As far as the meme du jour? The one thing we know that tomorrow it will be something else.

I think Biden can weather this controversy because no one has accused him of malicious intent, regardless of Flores and others moving the goal posts on what an apology constitutes. It's becoming noise at this point and sadly is diminishing the strength of the MeToo messaging with a bunch of nonsense.

But on this, you and I agree. It's on Joe Biden to handle this controversy effectively. Or not.

Time will tell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden Accuser Lucy Flores Rips Ex-VP For Joking About Controversy: 'It's Clear' He 'Hasn't... [View all] DonViejo Apr 2019 OP

this makes me sick samnsara Apr 2019 #1

Fuck Lucy Flores. She just looks bad. She has ruined any political career. No one Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #62

Oh Lucy, was your 15 minutes up too soon? LakeArenal Apr 2019 #2

Sorry in advance if I offend anyone, but Lucy Flores madaboutharry Apr 2019 #3

Completely agree. Tipperary Apr 2019 #9

I don't think anyone has told her she is no Eva Longoria demosincebirth Apr 2019 #17

Thank you for bringing this up! I was reluctant to say, but R B Garr Apr 2019 #25

agree. everything she described was with OTHER women JI7 Apr 2019 #58

Wow. That is a really shitty comment. Ar you suggeting that he onky nuzzles Eva Longoria types.? CentralMass Apr 2019 #32

the poster was wrong for that suggestion. but it's true that there were ONLY pics of him like that JI7 Apr 2019 #60

Wow, to you too, Are you always trying to put words in other peoples mouth? eom. demosincebirth Apr 2019 #94

You said exactly what i'm thinking and this thread should be bye-bye. trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #18

Squeezing out the last two minutes of her 15, I see... hlthe2b Apr 2019 #4

Hey Lucy, STFU. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #5

Lucy living up to her name... Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #6

Joe didn't apologize for his actions...okay, fine. But, is it too much to ask not to joke about it?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #53

Actually, I do think it is a good idea. marylandblue Apr 2019 #55

I guess that's one way to look at it... I respectfully disagree. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #57

I missed the very beginning of the speech but peggysue2 Apr 2019 #7

But, it's not just Flores objecting to Joe's questionable jokes... have you seen the coverage?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #54

Yeah I have and everyone agrees no big deal. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #63

Okaaaaay, "everyone agrees no big deal"... then CLEARLY you have NOT been watching the coverage. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #69

Sure, I've been listening to it as well as the admission that Joe Biden . . . peggysue2 Apr 2019 #67

Thank you... you get the point. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #70

Lucy Flores on Human Nature BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #8

Enough already BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #10

Looks like Lucy believes attacking Joe Biden will make her relevant democratisphere Apr 2019 #11

Joe WILL BE mindful of "personal space" Lucy....Give it a rest. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #12

Do you REALLY think Joe's joking about these unwanted touching incidents was a good idea?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #13

I did not see his speech today, so I am unable to opine...... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #14

Yes, I thought the video Joe put out saying he "gets it" was EXCELLENT actually... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #22

He wasn't joking about it in a negative connotation. He was acknowledging it, because everyone in still_one Apr 2019 #31

That's PRECISELY the problem... so, why joke about it?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35

You are not voting for him anyway, and if enough people believe this was not still_one Apr 2019 #36

Well, that's certainly true!! But, then that applies to all candidates involving all issues... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #37

No, It doesn't apply to all the issues. This specific issue regarding "inappropriate contact", still_one Apr 2019 #40

For the generation of voters who identify with him it was ok. And they really do vote. allgood33 Apr 2019 #15

I agree, this made making my choice easy. Pathwalker Apr 2019 #19

I'm NOT disagreeing with you... but, why give ammunition to the other side? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #24

Can you imagine if it was Bernie Sanders who was accused of these things? Power 2 the People Apr 2019 #20

Oh give it a rest he was not 'joking' about it. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #38

Was just watching CNN... theyre STILL talking bout Joe's "improper jokes" about unwanted touching... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #45

Some pundits said it and then they ran the clip which people with their own eyes and ears can UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #51

Okay fine, I accept your comment as a reasonable interpretation... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #65

As the evening is wearing on and I'm watching more and more...I see I may be in the minority UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #66

Your comments are fair and well taken. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #68

I thought it was funny. And those who are offended are looking to be offended. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #64

Its time for JOE to move on & show that he truly "gets it." He'd thus be wise to stop wit the jokes! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #72

This could get me into trouble here leftynyc Apr 2019 #16

has she apologized to stephanie Carter? JI7 Apr 2019 #21

has she apologized to joe for grabbing his shoulder. nt msongs Apr 2019 #23

+1000 Hassler Apr 2019 #77

Exactly, that shows how calculated this was. nt R B Garr Apr 2019 #27

First two tweets responding to Flores.. Cha Apr 2019 #74

Looks like people are really on to her motives. Waiting 5 years R B Garr Apr 2019 #92

You're Welcome, RB.. Cha Apr 2019 #93

Please go away Ms. Flores. Your fifteen minutes in the spotlight expired last Friday..... George II Apr 2019 #26

He wasn't "joking" about it in the negative connotation that some are trying to push. There is an still_one Apr 2019 #28

OM fucking G - he clearly was not 'joking'...did people even watch it? nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #39

No, I didn't watch it. The characterization that "he was joking" was conveyed by the NY Times still_one Apr 2019 #42

I disagree with that, some pundits said it as well. I think MOST folks see that it was not trying t UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #43

I hope you are right, because almost every news outlet I have seen is characterizing it as still_one Apr 2019 #46

But then they show the clip and I didn't think he was joking and I am objective...I'm not a UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #47

Thanks still_one Apr 2019 #49

Well laughing at a "joke" is a normal response... just not very funny IMHO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #48

It is also a way of release from a stressful situation. Interestingly the audience did take it in a still_one Apr 2019 #88

Alas... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #29

Bye Lucy! R B Garr Apr 2019 #30

Instead of just putting her reputation underwater.... quickesst Apr 2019 #33

Dear Lucy, Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #34

Flores needs to get the fuck up on outta here with her bullshit. I'm done with her and her UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #41

Sometimes the best laid plans of mice and men or women go justhanginon Apr 2019 #44

Lucy is on a mission to bring Biden down. IluvPitties Apr 2019 #50

She's hardly the only one. the gaffe machine is just beginning. Kurt V. Apr 2019 #52

I wonder if Trump has killed the gaffe. Even if he hasn't, marylandblue Apr 2019 #56

Who has paid this woman off? Follow the money trail. nt Ferrets are Cool Apr 2019 #59

Somehow, Someway, she is making $ from this headline-seeking elfin Apr 2019 #61

Yep. See my reply, 75, below. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #76

Yawn Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #71

Wow.. the first two tweets I read.. are Not kind to Cha Apr 2019 #73

Lucy Flores is peddling merchandise online, so she's likely profiting from this attention. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #75

Thanks for the Full Cha Apr 2019 #82

Thanks for doing this dive into cheapskatery elfin Apr 2019 #83

Not having the effect she hoped for. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2019 #78

It's clear Flores is not satisfied with fifteen minutes of fame and is pushing towards... Guilded Lilly Apr 2019 #79

Oh FFS! MustLoveBeagles Apr 2019 #80

The take-down that didn't. ucrdem Apr 2019 #81

It wasn't for lack of trying. So much disappointment from some supporters of a different Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #89

More Pushback on twitter.. Cha Apr 2019 #84

Flores, you're going to get the opposite result of what you're aiming for. ecstatic Apr 2019 #85

I wonder what we would be saying about Biden Liberal1982 Apr 2019 #86

But, he's not.. he's Joe Biden..an Cha Apr 2019 #87

Well tell that to certain supporters of a different campaign. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #90

Not sure what "we" would say loyalsister Apr 2019 #91