Democratic Primaries

MontanaFarmer

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49. I won't argue the point with you.

Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:05 AM

Feb 2020

I'm glad you contributed to someone you believe in. I don't believe in Bernie. I like some but not all of his policies, but i think he and his campaign team aren't interested in anything but tearing people down. That "democratic establishment" he's sniping at is many things. Sure, it's third way, CAP, etc but it's also about 85% of the elected officials with a D by their name, whom he'll need but don't like being disparaged. It's also the party many here have helped build with time, money, and opinion. So you're correct, if a person who proclaims to dislike that party, and refuses to join it in fact, wants to take that party over, there will be plenty of people who aren't happy and will do everything they can to avoid that outcome. That's especially true when that outcome has the potential to lead to complete electoral Chernobyl for us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Just made the switch to Biden [View all] CalFione Feb 2020 OP

Been with Amy, but I'm making it too. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #1

I'm sending money to the man who just said in the debates; DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #9

P. T. Barnum NYMinute Feb 2020 #37

Seriously. ucrdem Feb 2020 #56

So you're not really a Warren supporter. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #44

I am reading between the lines (your lines) DemocracyMouse erlewyne Feb 2020 #46

I won't argue the point with you. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #49

Bloombergs concentration of wealth is immoral but Bernie's millions and estates aren't? Squinch Feb 2020 #52

Why do you hate Bernie so much? I like all the candidates. brutus smith Feb 2020 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Feb 2020 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author xmas74 Feb 2020 #83

Thank you! I've self deleted to be safe. Shame it is necessary when speaking the truth. Squinch Feb 2020 #86

But going back to the original question, why is Bloomberg's wealth immoral, but BS's is not? Squinch Feb 2020 #59

You're comparing Bernie's wealth to Bloomberg's? brutus smith Feb 2020 #61

So a few million and a few estates are fine but beyond that it's immoral? Squinch Feb 2020 #63

Ah, but don't you see? What's good for thee is not good for me. apcalc Feb 2020 #77

Hopefully BS will let us know at what level obscene wealth becomes immoral. Squinch Feb 2020 #79

Me too. Sending a couple bucks Amy's way so she stays in until Minnesota . apcalc Feb 2020 #54

Thank you rwheeler31 Feb 2020 #2

California just endured their worst environmental ordeal in their history (massive fires 🔥). DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #14

New Deal values... Woodycall Feb 2020 #22

Fantastic quote! DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #33

The full text is even better... Woodycall Feb 2020 #41

Bernie is no FDR. Squinch Feb 2020 #67

It has not turned out yet. Premature crowning. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #34

"Pitching the green new deal." AS ALWAYS "calling for" but not actually DOING anything. Squinch Feb 2020 #66

Welcome! blue-wave Feb 2020 #3

+1 and Thanks for the music! emmaverybo Feb 2020 #35

While i agree with you, unfortunately Bloomberg is going to make it very still_one Feb 2020 #4

Yes, Bloomberg who after all is a Republican in Dem clothing... DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #17

I think if Bernie is the nominee, which is the direction it appears to be heading, the stuff that still_one Feb 2020 #50

Yes. And one would think he would be aware of the political dynamics. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #43

Perhaps the next debate will clarify things, and point out the liability that a Sanders nomination still_one Feb 2020 #51

Bloomberg is to blame but not Amy? I like both of them but if you're going to blame one you have to Squinch Feb 2020 #62

I disagree. Bloomberg has unlimited resources that the other non-Bernie block candidates do not still_one Feb 2020 #68

That doesn't change the fact that they are all going after the same voters. Squinch Feb 2020 #71

Sure, but some have significantly more impact on specific candidates than others still_one Feb 2020 #72

But I think that is only because the voters who were left in that Squinch Feb 2020 #73

I understand the reasons. At this stage I would be happy if they unifed behind one candidate in still_one Feb 2020 #74

I would too. And I believe the logical choice is Joe. And if he would just Squinch Feb 2020 #75

+++ still_one Feb 2020 #76

I contribute to Joe. Others may drop out but Bloomberg has endless funds. brush Feb 2020 #5

Agreed MaryMagdaline Feb 2020 #6

I hope Biden wins in spite of the gop cross over votes in SC.. Cha Feb 2020 #7

Interesting progression there. Every vote update, Bernie inches closer to 50% Bucky Feb 2020 #8

He may be bringing new people in with his promises, but others are fleeing and will flee wisteria Feb 2020 #11

If we were running against President Romney or President Cruz... Bucky Feb 2020 #15

That legislative skills thing? According to Snopes it's a Republican meme DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #18

Thanks, will Google that Bucky Feb 2020 #23

If they're "fleeing" then they aren't the Democrats they profess to be. brutus smith Feb 2020 #58

For every one he brings, another might drop out. Since his results do not show he has more support emmaverybo Feb 2020 #36

Just sent him some more $! redstateblues Feb 2020 #27

Mahalo, redstateblues! Cha Feb 2020 #30

Thank you. You have made a wise choice wisteria Feb 2020 #10

I like Bernie. He's a good man. His policies are traditional Democratic DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #20

I thought we should never look to the past. Main complaint about Biden looking to that far off emmaverybo Feb 2020 #38

Bernie's outperforming by 17 percent so far jimfields33 Feb 2020 #70

This is good to hear PatSeg Feb 2020 #12

I don't think some of your info is correct. Kaleva Feb 2020 #13

Thank you! wisteria Feb 2020 #16

Joe has the coattails needed to lift down ticket Democrats. oasis Feb 2020 #19

I did too. AirmensMom Feb 2020 #21

Tenn matters CalFione Feb 2020 #24

I know. AirmensMom Feb 2020 #31

Americans are sick of Trump, even the deplorables are getting weary. They see Sanders as... DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #25

The down ballot candidates will be running as far away from Bernie as fast as they can redstateblues Feb 2020 #28

I agree. n/t AirmensMom Feb 2020 #32

I'll get behind Sanders AirmensMom Feb 2020 #29

No. The vodka-swilling underpants Russian Honeymoon will put a searing image into the mind emmaverybo Feb 2020 #40

you convinced me to show my preference Hamlette Feb 2020 #26

I'm waiting for the convention. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2020 #39

Please. Debates, speeches, big gotcha moments do not demonstrate a candidate's potential emmaverybo Feb 2020 #42

but with only a plurality, and whatever may happen between now and then SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2020 #87

I don't see Warren dropping out unless to form a coalition with Bernie. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #98

Maybe Joe will win in SC unless.. cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #45

Ok though I don' tthink it will work booley Feb 2020 #47

Biden was my candidate when he came on board. Doreen Feb 2020 #48

I agree CalFione. I am hoping the next debate will clarify things, and point out the liability that still_one Feb 2020 #53

I may also switch, I like Biden and I really trust him. katmondoo Feb 2020 #60

I think it's too late to stop Bernie now. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #64

Right because, what? 200 out of 4000 delegates have been set. Its all over. Squinch Feb 2020 #65

No, I am drawing my conclusions from polls showing Bernie catching Biden is South Carolina totodeinhere Feb 2020 #88

Correction: 78 out of 4000. Squinch Feb 2020 #89

..... LovingA2andMI Feb 2020 #78

Bloomberg should focus on both Sanders and Trump. honest.abe Feb 2020 #69

Bloomberg should drop out. Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #80

He could turn out to be the only thing between us and 4 more years of Trump. honest.abe Feb 2020 #81

No more time left to sway public opinion against Bernie. We need a single centrist to go against him Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #84

Huh? We are just getting started. honest.abe Feb 2020 #85

In terms of numbers of delegates won we are just getting started. But I read here Squinch Feb 2020 #91

Or he could lose to Trump. n/t totodeinhere Feb 2020 #92

My thinking is he will focus on helping Biden win the nomination. honest.abe Feb 2020 #93

I have always said that I like Joe and would gladly vote for him in the GE. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #94

Yes, agreed. honest.abe Feb 2020 #95

Hi, and welcome! TruckFump Feb 2020 #82

I have always liked Joe. But remember that there is also a non-Joe majority in the party. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #90

Biden was not my first choice musette_sf Feb 2020 #97

I think that Senator Harris has a great future in the party. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #99

Same musette_sf Feb 2020 #96