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In reply to the discussion: My apologies to Bernie Sanders and his supporters [View all]lapucelle
(20,950 posts)66. Which of the F.D.R. Wannabes Actually Understands New Deal Liberalism?
Suddenly, Franklin D. Roosevelt is all the rage. But many Democrats dont understand what his legacy means.
Suddenly [...] Roosevelt is alive again in the 2020 Democratic primary campaign: His ideas for using government to improve lives echo through stump speeches across Iowa and New Hampshire.
But theres a right way and a wrong way to revive Roosevelt. Before we allow anyone to assume his mantle, lets separate candidates merely seeking inspiration for big ideas from those misappropriating his legacy.
Bernie Sanders, the most explicit of the Roosevelt wannabes, is in the latter category. He has repurposed the Second Bill of Rights address on his website to report that Roosevelt was constantly attacked as a socialist, so he must have actually been one just like the independent senator from Vermont. Hes betting that a younger post-Cold War generation wont conflate his brand of democratic socialism with communism, as many of their elders wrongly do.
But Roosevelt was an improvisational pragmatist a juggler, he called himself not a socialist. While his idea for Social Security contained socialistic elements (as did George W. Bushs 2008 bank bailout), he understood that in a nation of strivers, the concept is a political loser.
When asked his political philosophy, he replied: Im a Christian and a Democrat, thats all.
Suddenly [...] Roosevelt is alive again in the 2020 Democratic primary campaign: His ideas for using government to improve lives echo through stump speeches across Iowa and New Hampshire.
But theres a right way and a wrong way to revive Roosevelt. Before we allow anyone to assume his mantle, lets separate candidates merely seeking inspiration for big ideas from those misappropriating his legacy.
Bernie Sanders, the most explicit of the Roosevelt wannabes, is in the latter category. He has repurposed the Second Bill of Rights address on his website to report that Roosevelt was constantly attacked as a socialist, so he must have actually been one just like the independent senator from Vermont. Hes betting that a younger post-Cold War generation wont conflate his brand of democratic socialism with communism, as many of their elders wrongly do.
But Roosevelt was an improvisational pragmatist a juggler, he called himself not a socialist. While his idea for Social Security contained socialistic elements (as did George W. Bushs 2008 bank bailout), he understood that in a nation of strivers, the concept is a political loser.
When asked his political philosophy, he replied: Im a Christian and a Democrat, thats all.
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Running for re-election in 1936, Roosevelt said of his big-money critics: They are unanimous in their hate of me and I welcome their hatred.
But when Mr. Sanders quotes that line in his stump speech, he doesnt mention that Roosevelt soon tacked to the center. He rebuffed calls for national health insurance as impractical, backed a balanced budget, insisted that most welfare be connected to work and supported free trade.
As World War II approached, he abandoned the New Deal entirely and invited the corporate titans who loathed him to help him win it. With the end of the war in sight, he renewed his liberal domestic agenda with the landmark G.I. Bill, which inspired todays Democratic focus on affordable education.
But when Mr. Sanders quotes that line in his stump speech, he doesnt mention that Roosevelt soon tacked to the center. He rebuffed calls for national health insurance as impractical, backed a balanced budget, insisted that most welfare be connected to work and supported free trade.
As World War II approached, he abandoned the New Deal entirely and invited the corporate titans who loathed him to help him win it. With the end of the war in sight, he renewed his liberal domestic agenda with the landmark G.I. Bill, which inspired todays Democratic focus on affordable education.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/opinion/fdr-democrats-2020.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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I will work as hard as I can to get Bernie elected if he's the nominee.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Feb 2020
#2
I saw more than a few DUers threatening to leave the party if Sanders was our nominee.
ramen
Feb 2020
#51
I will vote Bloomberg over Sanders if it comes to that and when Sanders loses the General if he is
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#4
I do not believe Sanders can win a general...thus I will vote for someone who can...should Sanders
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#87
So there is no post you can point to that states or infers that the poster won't vote for the nomine
Squinch
Feb 2020
#61
If Bernie does get the nomination, the Dem Party needs to seriously educate...
SMC22307
Feb 2020
#44
Oh boy. The ready answer to everything .... Russian interference. Down Alice's rabbit hole we go.
KPN
Feb 2020
#102
The passengers on the Titanic were trying to bail water with their chamber pots... to no avail.
NurseJackie
Feb 2020
#114
Your questions are easy for me to answer....Sanders will lose a general. Bloomberg being moderate
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#95
If the best thing you can find that he's done for African Americans happened half a century ago
Clash City Rocker
Feb 2020
#56
During his tenure as mayor, Bloomberg lowered the death rate of young AA men by 45 %...and it
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#97
I don't remember where I saw it ...the same story said that incarceration declined 50%. There is so
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#118
Sanders is sure to lose the states we need...Bloomberg is a moderate and is gaining support with AA
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#84
Sanders doesn't have a history of bragging about violating the civil rights of
madville
Feb 2020
#92
I choose a nominee who can beat Trump...whatever mistakes Bloomberg made, he is way better than
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#98
Yes, that is it...not giving up. We are figting for our party and our nation...we must stop Trump
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#78
Sanders did support Clinton heavily and vocally in the run-up to the 2016 election. nt
ramen
Feb 2020
#52
He will just run again in the next election after losing the general. I am sick of him! n/t
Tess49
Feb 2020
#72
I am too...who among us thinks he did enough to elect Hillary in 16...and of course,
Demsrule86
Feb 2020
#74
polling has said this is the one issue that will 100% ALIENATE the voters we need
EveHammond13
Feb 2020
#10
Interesting. Not sure what the Republicans have done in your state to suppress votes,
PatrickforO
Feb 2020
#32
Let me know when you find some evidence of that. Otherwise it seems like baseless speculation to me
ramen
Feb 2020
#55