Democratic Primaries

Hortensis

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13. Russia is helping Sanders. Russia has been

Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:19 PM

Feb 2020

helping Sanders Continuously without stopping since 2015. Our intelligence services say Russia has been working with an express purpose of using Sanders to defeat Democrats and re-elect Trump. This is known fact.

Here’s another fact: Russian counterintelligence calls the victims who unknowingly help them useful idiots. That’s Russia’s term. Both those they manage to delude into voting the way they want them to and those whose behaviors cluelessly assist anyway. They’ve been doing this to bring down governments in many nations for a long time, but obviously the United States is so far where they are achieving their greatest victories.

Way past time for everyone and anyone to be unknowing. This is 2016 all over again, Just a lot better from their viewpoint

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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538's Latest Projection: SANDERS will get 1796 Delegates !!! [View all] bluewater Feb 2020 OP

Doesn't it depend on Frasier Balzov Feb 2020 #1

Tainted results. Russia is helping Bernie... Facebook, Twitter, Poll manipulation. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #2

. HeartlandProgressive Feb 2020 #4

Russia is helping Sanders. Russia has been Hortensis Feb 2020 #13

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #75

+ 1 musette_sf Feb 2020 #35

Sanders nomination equals 4 more years of Trump cheezmaka Feb 2020 #55

Yawn fallout87 Feb 2020 #66

Just who are these so-called "losers"? George II Feb 2020 #72

Oh, FFS! rzemanfl Feb 2020 #74

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #82

Warren and Sanders would have more delegates than everyone else combined? HeartlandProgressive Feb 2020 #3

The team needs to team up to form the unstoppable team!! GO BERNIE & ELIZABETH!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #21

Bloomberg wont have anywhere near that many mgcgulfcoast Feb 2020 #5

It's a disaster either way imo. 4 more year of Trump. apcalc Feb 2020 #6

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #7

So sad but true LostinRed Feb 2020 #11

ZERO chance the DNC would push that... we have to defeat the Orange Menace!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #23

According to this it says Sanders will have 45.20% of the delegates Moderateguy Feb 2020 #8

You seem to be forgetting the 15% threshold to get delegates. bluewater Feb 2020 #10

Why "no way?" If 1796 is Sanders top number, then the rest... LAS14 Feb 2020 #9

The presumption is that enough of the Warren delegates would vote for Bernie on the 2nd round Steelrolled Feb 2020 #71

That is over 45% and far more than double anyone else. If he gets to that level and is denied Celerity Feb 2020 #12

Agreed. If the numbers hold. bluewater Feb 2020 #14

"denying him the nomination would blow up the party"????? musette_sf Feb 2020 #37

Like it or not, Sanders is running as a Democrat and Democratic voters are voting for him. bluewater Feb 2020 #39

Sen Sanders is not a Democrat. musette_sf Feb 2020 #41

And that has what to do with 538's projections? bluewater Feb 2020 #42

It has plenty to do with the Democratic Party musette_sf Feb 2020 #43

Only one of those Sanders quotes is under 30 years old. PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #54

I'm looking at the fact musette_sf Feb 2020 #56

Deal with the fact that Sanders is likely to be the Democratic candidate in the PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #57

"Deal with the fact"? musette_sf Feb 2020 #59

I agree with you that there is a long term bullying problem at DU. PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #60

I hope our Democratic Party musette_sf Feb 2020 #61

You did not answer my questions. PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #62

No one cares Sympthsical Feb 2020 #79

David Plouffe himself has said it would take "a generation" for Dems to recover Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #50

"Folks better move quickly through the stages of grief musette_sf Feb 2020 #52

If current trends continue, Sanders' delegate lead will be insurmountable after Super Tuesday Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #67

AGREED mgcgulfcoast Feb 2020 #18

If he gets that close they won't dare deny him. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #20

Agreed. Sympthsical Feb 2020 #78

wishful thinking by bernie fans cannot cancel math. if he's not wanted by more than half too bad nt msongs Feb 2020 #15

538 are "Bernie Fans" now? It's 538's projection. bluewater Feb 2020 #17

Conventions can be like the game of horseshoes. Steelrolled Feb 2020 #73

Based on this model, it looks like the underthematrix Feb 2020 #16

538 disagrees, they have Sanders far and away most likey to win on the 1st ballot bluewater Feb 2020 #19

You should study up on conventions. There will be consolidation BEFORE underthematrix Feb 2020 #49

Time will tell. bluewater Feb 2020 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #22

liz is going to emerge as the unity candidate Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #24

Honestly, not if Sanders does get 1700+ Delegates going in to the convention. bluewater Feb 2020 #25

sanders isn't going to get that Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #26

If Sanders wins SC, that projection will jump even higher. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #28

Steyer has completely messed things up in South Carolina, and I suspect he will do the same along still_one Feb 2020 #34

Not all of Steyer's support would go to Biden. Besides, I don't think Steyer's numbers will hold. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #36

From what I have heard his ads are playing non-stop in South Carolina. I know here in California still_one Feb 2020 #38

Bloomberg and Steyer are all I hear in California Sympthsical Feb 2020 #80

Pretty much my impression also. We will see if the debates change the dynamics still_one Feb 2020 #81

Warren is not a unity candidate. nsd Feb 2020 #27

I'm looking at what people I'm connected with are saying Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #29

The Democratic Party is much bigger than that. nsd Feb 2020 #30

A real democratic electorate? jimfields33 Feb 2020 #64

Nevada is a minority-majority state. bluewater Feb 2020 #65

No, I was contrasting real voters with the friends of the poster who were said to be ... nsd Feb 2020 #69

Thank you. I get it totally. jimfields33 Feb 2020 #70

If it came down to a 2-person candidate convention and those present candidates that did drop out in2herbs Feb 2020 #31

That's a bit too vague. bluewater Feb 2020 #32

This Is Totally About Beating Trump colsohlibgal Feb 2020 #33

Love or hate Bernie The Mouth Feb 2020 #40

It really is astounding. And what's changed since 2016 is the diversity of his support. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #46

If Sanders come in with that number of delegates, that would say that his support Blue_true Feb 2020 #44

Well, then why even have any more votes? book_worm Feb 2020 #45

Right. Why even have polls then too? bluewater Feb 2020 #47

538 is now up to 1803 Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #48

Delegates to the Nevada state convention Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #53

If he doesn't have 1990 delegates at the first ballot of the convention... SidDithers Feb 2020 #58

He's damn close to getting those 1991 delegates if this projection is at all accurate. bluewater Feb 2020 #63

I know she's progressive TexasBushwhacker Feb 2020 #68

i think counting Feb 2020 #76

So you think that other candidates should drop out when one candidate wins the pledged ehrnst Feb 2020 #77

oops. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #83