Democratic Primaries

Laelth

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39. They think they can beat him.

Reply to George II (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:46 PM

Feb 2020

That's all I've got.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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What bothers me about South Carolina is Biden was ahead by double digits, and then suddenly it is [View all] still_one Feb 2020 OP

Makes a lot of sense if you look @Bernie's aggressive progressive agenda focused on the workin class InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #1

That's a bingo! N/T Devil Child Feb 2020 #5

The tea party is progressive? tirebiter Feb 2020 #122

I wonder if they have the stats on how many registered republicans are voting in the Democratic still_one Feb 2020 #9

There will not be any such stats. orwellsighs Feb 2020 #49

Interesting. Thanks for that information. I know South Carolina cancelled their republican still_one Feb 2020 #55

Correct. orwellsighs Feb 2020 #66

Spot on! jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #116

That his support from blacks and latinos has risen has South Carolinians giving him another look. Autumn Feb 2020 #141

And with good reason. NY06DemSoc Feb 2020 #156

great post ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #144

What makes sense is that Sen. Sanders is resonating with voters Devil Child Feb 2020 #2

Yup, they see Bernie as inevitable... soon Bernie's fellow Democrats will too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #10

bernie by definition cannot have "fellow democrats" nt msongs Feb 2020 #14

Of course you don't, seeing who your candidate preference is says quite a lot still_one Feb 2020 #11

Nothing I haven't heard before and my preferred candidate has same number of victories as yours Devil Child Feb 2020 #25

I will definitely vote for Sanders if he is the nominee without hesitation. Incidently, my still_one Feb 2020 #31

Zero, and probably will remain that way Devil Child Feb 2020 #36

Same here, but I have to wonder out of curiosity why you wouldn't just support Bernie or Warren for still_one Feb 2020 #50

I do support Warren and Sanders, supported Yang too Devil Child Feb 2020 #58

And an interview with one of the head instigators of this move 2naSalit Feb 2020 #68

The New Yorker had an article on this. Thanks 2naSalit still_one Feb 2020 #70

I heard it on NPR this evening. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #71

+1 JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #150

Could it be perspective? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #52

... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #82

A Tulsi supporter sees no conspiracy afoot. pnwmom Feb 2020 #102

Jill enid602 Feb 2020 #114

LOL. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #115

You can always send her one of them Twitter messages Devil Child Feb 2020 #161

Another post noting who I support in the Primary! Devil Child Feb 2020 #160

We could have fixed this decades ago. but there is no centralized leadership outside of Kurt V. Feb 2020 #3

I agree, whether that is the situation here or not, it is still bad policy to have open primaries still_one Feb 2020 #16

There are pros and cons to it. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #26

As far as I am concerned there are no pros to open primaries, because it allows non-Democrats to still_one Feb 2020 #34

Imagine a non-Dem who really doesn't like Trump. S/he has motivation... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #40

Its cut and dried for me. I don't want non-Democrats choosing who the Democratic nominee is. If still_one Feb 2020 #69

But we win by having a candidate those people like. Always a double-edged sword. n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #95

It's Not the Will of the Democrats.. it's the Will of Cha Feb 2020 #117

semi-closed primaries are the best way to go for a fair balance Celerity Feb 2020 #88

I disagree. That is California. The California Democratic Party has no problem with people who still_one Feb 2020 #92

I disagree, and I am a California registered overseas voter. Celerity Feb 2020 #98

We will never agree on this. As to you view that you want something in place that blocks actual still_one Feb 2020 #100

re:IF you voted in one party's primary for POTUS, that is the ONLY party you can vote for {for pres} thesquanderer Feb 2020 #96

that is a valid argument (although I did say that it would only effect POTUS, and that would entail Celerity Feb 2020 #99

Not easy to explain, but I agree still_one Feb 2020 #106

It certainly wouldn't pass muster.. cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #131

True. It was the first time I ever attempted to add something like that. Celerity Feb 2020 #140

Open primaries are stupid. rownesheck Feb 2020 #124

California just did this a few months ago and it's one of the most Democratic jimfields33 Feb 2020 #89

I am not following. California has semi-open primaries which have been in place for some time now still_one Feb 2020 #107

Yes we could have. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #84

open primaries mercuryblues Feb 2020 #4

Yes this is one of the organized Republican operations to vote Bernie in SC primary delisen Feb 2020 #15

Bernie is, according to polls not whims, the most electable Dem. So there's that. DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #46

The GOP is not holding a presidential primary in SC this year mercuryblues Feb 2020 #73

No. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #87

Yes, it all sounds logical krny9 Feb 2020 #54

tom steyers happens counting Feb 2020 #6

I think Steyer is hurting Warren more than Biden, and while Bloomberg isn't running in SC, he is still_one Feb 2020 #18

maybe in nv counting Feb 2020 #23

interesting still_one Feb 2020 #59

Precisely. Laelth Feb 2020 #35

What does that have to do with polling results? brooklynite Feb 2020 #7

You are setting yourself up to believe that Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #8

The mysterious surge. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #12

What a coincidence. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #37

Ummhmm. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #47

+1, ssssshhhhhh ... you're not supposed to speak of those facts / sarc uponit7771 Feb 2020 #64

sssssssssssssssssssssshhh sheshe2 Feb 2020 #80

There are a lot of confusing things going on. For one thing the South Carolina republican party still_one Feb 2020 #72

There is fuckery happening. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #81

I think so, or definitely the potential for something nefarious to occur still_one Feb 2020 #86

Oh, it is indeed nefarious. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #90

I moved out of S.C. a few years back, Corgigal Feb 2020 #109

It has turned into a sh*t show pandr32 Feb 2020 #151

Steyer. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #13

This is the criteria from the CBS poll. still_one Feb 2020 #28

If they're planning to vote in the D primary, then they're Dem-leaning TwilightZone Feb 2020 #33

I am going by what the New Yorker has discussed, calling it Operation Chaos. still_one Feb 2020 #45

Pssst.. there are only polls in SC, no results on the early voting jmg257 Feb 2020 #17

It's not neck and neck, and Steyer seems to have gotten those voters, not Bernie Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #19

republicans are spending millions to get republicans out to vote for Sanders. Why in God's name.... George II Feb 2020 #20

Please provide a Scintilla of proof of this claim of Millions of Dollars. Rilgin Feb 2020 #38

It's right here in this thread. George II Feb 2020 #56

I looked in every post. Couldnt find any reference to Millions of Dollars. Please show me where. Rilgin Feb 2020 #104

Good luck getting an actual answer. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #148

They think they can beat him. Laelth Feb 2020 #39

Thanks George. This was discussed in a newyorker article still_one Feb 2020 #57

It's been all over the place for at least a week. George II Feb 2020 #60

To make matters even more convoluted I just found out that South Carolina doesn't have politiical still_one Feb 2020 #63

Iowa and New Hampshire happened. DanTex Feb 2020 #21

Yes. Part of Biden's support was wanting to vote for a winner, and someone who can beat Trump. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #27

That's why Sanders got half the votes in New Hampshire than before, even with record turnout. George II Feb 2020 #62

about a month ago right? tia uponit7771 Feb 2020 #67

Biden's collapse in SC mirrors his numbers nationwide FBaggins Feb 2020 #22

Tom Steyer has bought about 10-12% support and hurt Biden in the process madville Feb 2020 #24

OMG and he is an investor in one of the largest private prison firms. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #41

Yes. Seems unlikely. Squinch Feb 2020 #29

What makes sense it early polls had a lot to do with name recognition and Obama Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #30

It is decided by the state. apcalc Feb 2020 #32

Wow that's bad. Not voting in a primary means you cannot vote in the general election?! Lucky Luciano Feb 2020 #48

Will Sanders repudiate the MAGAt votes he will get? Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #42

Minnesota also has an open primary (on Super Tuesday) dflprincess Feb 2020 #43

Answers doxyluv13 Feb 2020 #44

Polls change. IA and NH always have an influence. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #51

Electability quakerboy Feb 2020 #53

Republicans are voting Sanders in open primaries and caucuses. They want him as nominee. CousinIT Feb 2020 #61

Clyburn is going to edorse Joe but their is so much rwheeler31 Feb 2020 #65

There are a lot of strange things going on right now for sure still_one Feb 2020 #74

Here is my response to this balloon you just floated. Bonobo Feb 2020 #75

This isn't something I just made up, the New Yorker had an article discussing this still_one Feb 2020 #77

What does "open primaries" have to do with the polling? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #76

Nothing, of course. It has to do with IA and NH, clearly evidenced by this graph: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #79

Because open primaries allow ANYONE to vote in the Democratic primary. That means someone who is still_one Feb 2020 #85

Russian interference. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #78

Bernie does well with minorities. OliverQ Feb 2020 #83

I wouldn't worry about the polls, Biden will remain strong in SC & it would surprise me very much yaesu Feb 2020 #91

I think he will take the state, but it will be much more narrow than before still_one Feb 2020 #93

Several Republicans I know have confirmed to me that they are voting for Bernie GETPLANING Feb 2020 #94

No one has voted in SC yet. MisterFred Feb 2020 #97

No Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #101

Yes Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #103

It could just be the simple fact he's taken some big losses and people want to vote for a winner. Capt. America Feb 2020 #105

According to the latest polls, the poll indicated that the majority of South Carolina voters would still_one Feb 2020 #108

Yet you can plainly see his drop in the polls correlates with his losses: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #119

Excuse me, I was typing on though phone too fast and the poll statistics said the polled people still_one Feb 2020 #123

But they and others obviously have been, which is the point. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #145

Either way it is what it is still_one Feb 2020 #147

We know some posters here have changed their preferences Mariana Feb 2020 #121

Honestly, I think Biden's early leads were based on name recognition, familiarity and likability. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #110

I think that's bothering alot of people. William769 Feb 2020 #111

Steyer, not Sanders. Steyer spent millions there. brush Feb 2020 #112

Biden is running on name recognition and Obama association. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #113

Good point... now Bernie's lookin like He's inevitable & his poll numbers are soarin!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #118

He has given some of the most profound speeches, moving appearances, town halls of anyone emmaverybo Feb 2020 #120

All true. I wish some of the Bernie fans took the time to know who Joe really is. Walleye Feb 2020 #132

No democrat Buzz cook Feb 2020 #159

African American voters decide late. Happens every 4 years. Recursion Feb 2020 #125

Bloomberg doesn't affect Biden in South Carolina because he isn't running there. What I fail to still_one Feb 2020 #126

Because he's spent a lot of money there. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #146

Oh yeah, we're just late on everything Polybius Feb 2020 #155

No, not everything, but on primary decisionmaking, yes Recursion Feb 2020 #157

All primaries should be closed hangaleft Feb 2020 #127

I agree, but cannot do anything about it now still_one Feb 2020 #128

This happens every year TheFarseer Feb 2020 #129

that is true still_one Feb 2020 #130

He's neck and neck in votes? Or in polls? How would republicans skew polls? redqueen Feb 2020 #133

Too many candidates in the race, Steyer, Republican primary cancelled in Soth Carolina, still_one Feb 2020 #134

So it's the polls. Which are of likely dem voters, right? Not republicans? redqueen Feb 2020 #135

Soon those voters will have to give up the ability to vote for Senate candidates in those primaries dsc Feb 2020 #136

LOL, Bernie doing well means Republicans are voting for Bernie??? LOL! nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #137

Well it can't be that Biden's support has been soft from the beginning. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #152

Yeah, it's not like many of us haven't been predicting a decline. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #153

Most voters get behind candidates, not ideologies. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #138

Tom Styer snowybirdie Feb 2020 #139

The results of the current primary are influenced by the results of the preceding ones. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #142

Maybe, just maybe, Sanders' support among blacks was better than people thought. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #143

Don't forget a Steyer aide stole valuable volunteer data collected by Kamala Harris' campaign. PunkinPi Feb 2020 #149

That's the ONLY explanation? NY06DemSoc Feb 2020 #154

This makes me smile Gothmog Feb 2020 #158