Democratic Primaries

OliverQ

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83. Bernie does well with minorities.

Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:39 PM

Feb 2020

Biden hasn't been performing well at all, so maybe people ditching him could explain Bernie catching up.

It doesn't mean all Republicans are voting for Bernie. And let them. They'll likely regret it just like Dems regret putting up Trump is the best candidate for Hillary to beat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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What bothers me about South Carolina is Biden was ahead by double digits, and then suddenly it is [View all] still_one Feb 2020 OP

Makes a lot of sense if you look @Bernie's aggressive progressive agenda focused on the workin class InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #1

That's a bingo! N/T Devil Child Feb 2020 #5

The tea party is progressive? tirebiter Feb 2020 #122

I wonder if they have the stats on how many registered republicans are voting in the Democratic still_one Feb 2020 #9

There will not be any such stats. orwellsighs Feb 2020 #49

Interesting. Thanks for that information. I know South Carolina cancelled their republican still_one Feb 2020 #55

Correct. orwellsighs Feb 2020 #66

Spot on! jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #116

That his support from blacks and latinos has risen has South Carolinians giving him another look. Autumn Feb 2020 #141

And with good reason. NY06DemSoc Feb 2020 #156

great post ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #144

What makes sense is that Sen. Sanders is resonating with voters Devil Child Feb 2020 #2

Yup, they see Bernie as inevitable... soon Bernie's fellow Democrats will too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #10

bernie by definition cannot have "fellow democrats" nt msongs Feb 2020 #14

Of course you don't, seeing who your candidate preference is says quite a lot still_one Feb 2020 #11

Nothing I haven't heard before and my preferred candidate has same number of victories as yours Devil Child Feb 2020 #25

I will definitely vote for Sanders if he is the nominee without hesitation. Incidently, my still_one Feb 2020 #31

Zero, and probably will remain that way Devil Child Feb 2020 #36

Same here, but I have to wonder out of curiosity why you wouldn't just support Bernie or Warren for still_one Feb 2020 #50

I do support Warren and Sanders, supported Yang too Devil Child Feb 2020 #58

And an interview with one of the head instigators of this move 2naSalit Feb 2020 #68

The New Yorker had an article on this. Thanks 2naSalit still_one Feb 2020 #70

I heard it on NPR this evening. 2naSalit Feb 2020 #71

+1 JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #150

Could it be perspective? n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #52

... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #82

A Tulsi supporter sees no conspiracy afoot. pnwmom Feb 2020 #102

Jill enid602 Feb 2020 #114

LOL. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #115

You can always send her one of them Twitter messages Devil Child Feb 2020 #161

Another post noting who I support in the Primary! Devil Child Feb 2020 #160

We could have fixed this decades ago. but there is no centralized leadership outside of Kurt V. Feb 2020 #3

I agree, whether that is the situation here or not, it is still bad policy to have open primaries still_one Feb 2020 #16

There are pros and cons to it. (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #26

As far as I am concerned there are no pros to open primaries, because it allows non-Democrats to still_one Feb 2020 #34

Imagine a non-Dem who really doesn't like Trump. S/he has motivation... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #40

Its cut and dried for me. I don't want non-Democrats choosing who the Democratic nominee is. If still_one Feb 2020 #69

But we win by having a candidate those people like. Always a double-edged sword. n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #95

It's Not the Will of the Democrats.. it's the Will of Cha Feb 2020 #117

semi-closed primaries are the best way to go for a fair balance Celerity Feb 2020 #88

I disagree. That is California. The California Democratic Party has no problem with people who still_one Feb 2020 #92

I disagree, and I am a California registered overseas voter. Celerity Feb 2020 #98

We will never agree on this. As to you view that you want something in place that blocks actual still_one Feb 2020 #100

re:IF you voted in one party's primary for POTUS, that is the ONLY party you can vote for {for pres} thesquanderer Feb 2020 #96

that is a valid argument (although I did say that it would only effect POTUS, and that would entail Celerity Feb 2020 #99

Not easy to explain, but I agree still_one Feb 2020 #106

It certainly wouldn't pass muster.. cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #131

True. It was the first time I ever attempted to add something like that. Celerity Feb 2020 #140

Open primaries are stupid. rownesheck Feb 2020 #124

California just did this a few months ago and it's one of the most Democratic jimfields33 Feb 2020 #89

I am not following. California has semi-open primaries which have been in place for some time now still_one Feb 2020 #107

Yes we could have. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #84

open primaries mercuryblues Feb 2020 #4

Yes this is one of the organized Republican operations to vote Bernie in SC primary delisen Feb 2020 #15

Bernie is, according to polls not whims, the most electable Dem. So there's that. DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #46

The GOP is not holding a presidential primary in SC this year mercuryblues Feb 2020 #73

No. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #87

Yes, it all sounds logical krny9 Feb 2020 #54

tom steyers happens counting Feb 2020 #6

I think Steyer is hurting Warren more than Biden, and while Bloomberg isn't running in SC, he is still_one Feb 2020 #18

maybe in nv counting Feb 2020 #23

interesting still_one Feb 2020 #59

Precisely. Laelth Feb 2020 #35

What does that have to do with polling results? brooklynite Feb 2020 #7

You are setting yourself up to believe that Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #8

The mysterious surge. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #12

What a coincidence. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #37

Ummhmm. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #47

+1, ssssshhhhhh ... you're not supposed to speak of those facts / sarc uponit7771 Feb 2020 #64

sssssssssssssssssssssshhh sheshe2 Feb 2020 #80

There are a lot of confusing things going on. For one thing the South Carolina republican party still_one Feb 2020 #72

There is fuckery happening. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #81

I think so, or definitely the potential for something nefarious to occur still_one Feb 2020 #86

Oh, it is indeed nefarious. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #90

I moved out of S.C. a few years back, Corgigal Feb 2020 #109

It has turned into a sh*t show pandr32 Feb 2020 #151

Steyer. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #13

This is the criteria from the CBS poll. still_one Feb 2020 #28

If they're planning to vote in the D primary, then they're Dem-leaning TwilightZone Feb 2020 #33

I am going by what the New Yorker has discussed, calling it Operation Chaos. still_one Feb 2020 #45

Pssst.. there are only polls in SC, no results on the early voting jmg257 Feb 2020 #17

It's not neck and neck, and Steyer seems to have gotten those voters, not Bernie Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #19

republicans are spending millions to get republicans out to vote for Sanders. Why in God's name.... George II Feb 2020 #20

Please provide a Scintilla of proof of this claim of Millions of Dollars. Rilgin Feb 2020 #38

It's right here in this thread. George II Feb 2020 #56

I looked in every post. Couldnt find any reference to Millions of Dollars. Please show me where. Rilgin Feb 2020 #104

Good luck getting an actual answer. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #148

They think they can beat him. Laelth Feb 2020 #39

Thanks George. This was discussed in a newyorker article still_one Feb 2020 #57

It's been all over the place for at least a week. George II Feb 2020 #60

To make matters even more convoluted I just found out that South Carolina doesn't have politiical still_one Feb 2020 #63

Iowa and New Hampshire happened. DanTex Feb 2020 #21

Yes. Part of Biden's support was wanting to vote for a winner, and someone who can beat Trump. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #27

That's why Sanders got half the votes in New Hampshire than before, even with record turnout. George II Feb 2020 #62

about a month ago right? tia uponit7771 Feb 2020 #67

Biden's collapse in SC mirrors his numbers nationwide FBaggins Feb 2020 #22

Tom Steyer has bought about 10-12% support and hurt Biden in the process madville Feb 2020 #24

OMG and he is an investor in one of the largest private prison firms. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #41

Yes. Seems unlikely. Squinch Feb 2020 #29

What makes sense it early polls had a lot to do with name recognition and Obama Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #30

It is decided by the state. apcalc Feb 2020 #32

Wow that's bad. Not voting in a primary means you cannot vote in the general election?! Lucky Luciano Feb 2020 #48

Will Sanders repudiate the MAGAt votes he will get? Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #42

Minnesota also has an open primary (on Super Tuesday) dflprincess Feb 2020 #43

Answers doxyluv13 Feb 2020 #44

Polls change. IA and NH always have an influence. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #51

Electability quakerboy Feb 2020 #53

Republicans are voting Sanders in open primaries and caucuses. They want him as nominee. CousinIT Feb 2020 #61

Clyburn is going to edorse Joe but their is so much rwheeler31 Feb 2020 #65

There are a lot of strange things going on right now for sure still_one Feb 2020 #74

Here is my response to this balloon you just floated. Bonobo Feb 2020 #75

This isn't something I just made up, the New Yorker had an article discussing this still_one Feb 2020 #77

What does "open primaries" have to do with the polling? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #76

Nothing, of course. It has to do with IA and NH, clearly evidenced by this graph: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #79

Because open primaries allow ANYONE to vote in the Democratic primary. That means someone who is still_one Feb 2020 #85

Russian interference. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #78

Bernie does well with minorities. OliverQ Feb 2020 #83

I wouldn't worry about the polls, Biden will remain strong in SC & it would surprise me very much yaesu Feb 2020 #91

I think he will take the state, but it will be much more narrow than before still_one Feb 2020 #93

Several Republicans I know have confirmed to me that they are voting for Bernie GETPLANING Feb 2020 #94

No one has voted in SC yet. MisterFred Feb 2020 #97

No Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #101

Yes Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #103

It could just be the simple fact he's taken some big losses and people want to vote for a winner. Capt. America Feb 2020 #105

According to the latest polls, the poll indicated that the majority of South Carolina voters would still_one Feb 2020 #108

Yet you can plainly see his drop in the polls correlates with his losses: Garrett78 Feb 2020 #119

Excuse me, I was typing on though phone too fast and the poll statistics said the polled people still_one Feb 2020 #123

But they and others obviously have been, which is the point. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #145

Either way it is what it is still_one Feb 2020 #147

We know some posters here have changed their preferences Mariana Feb 2020 #121

Honestly, I think Biden's early leads were based on name recognition, familiarity and likability. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #110

I think that's bothering alot of people. William769 Feb 2020 #111

Steyer, not Sanders. Steyer spent millions there. brush Feb 2020 #112

Biden is running on name recognition and Obama association. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #113

Good point... now Bernie's lookin like He's inevitable & his poll numbers are soarin!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #118

He has given some of the most profound speeches, moving appearances, town halls of anyone emmaverybo Feb 2020 #120

All true. I wish some of the Bernie fans took the time to know who Joe really is. Walleye Feb 2020 #132

No democrat Buzz cook Feb 2020 #159

African American voters decide late. Happens every 4 years. Recursion Feb 2020 #125

Bloomberg doesn't affect Biden in South Carolina because he isn't running there. What I fail to still_one Feb 2020 #126

Because he's spent a lot of money there. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #146

Oh yeah, we're just late on everything Polybius Feb 2020 #155

No, not everything, but on primary decisionmaking, yes Recursion Feb 2020 #157

All primaries should be closed hangaleft Feb 2020 #127

I agree, but cannot do anything about it now still_one Feb 2020 #128

This happens every year TheFarseer Feb 2020 #129

that is true still_one Feb 2020 #130

He's neck and neck in votes? Or in polls? How would republicans skew polls? redqueen Feb 2020 #133

Too many candidates in the race, Steyer, Republican primary cancelled in Soth Carolina, still_one Feb 2020 #134

So it's the polls. Which are of likely dem voters, right? Not republicans? redqueen Feb 2020 #135

Soon those voters will have to give up the ability to vote for Senate candidates in those primaries dsc Feb 2020 #136

LOL, Bernie doing well means Republicans are voting for Bernie??? LOL! nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #137

Well it can't be that Biden's support has been soft from the beginning. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #152

Yeah, it's not like many of us haven't been predicting a decline. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #153

Most voters get behind candidates, not ideologies. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #138

Tom Styer snowybirdie Feb 2020 #139

The results of the current primary are influenced by the results of the preceding ones. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2020 #142

Maybe, just maybe, Sanders' support among blacks was better than people thought. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #143

Don't forget a Steyer aide stole valuable volunteer data collected by Kamala Harris' campaign. PunkinPi Feb 2020 #149

That's the ONLY explanation? NY06DemSoc Feb 2020 #154

This makes me smile Gothmog Feb 2020 #158