Democratic Primaries

ProgressDiv

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45. ... or you could just engage with the facts

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:46 AM

Feb 2020

Sniping with snark without engaging at all with the research and polling data presented is pretty much admitting you have no argument.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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An honest conversation about Bernie Sanders starts with one basic observation. [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

That is not the case. boston bean Feb 2020 #1

Billionaires Own The Media And Spew Propaganda At All Levels DanieRains Feb 2020 #36

when you have nothing... ProgressDiv Feb 2020 #41

Great info! Lol USALiberal Feb 2020 #76

Not much more to add. boston bean Feb 2020 #85

Repeat it often enough and the masses will regard it as the truth dalton99a Feb 2020 #2

... or you could just engage with the facts ProgressDiv Feb 2020 #45

Thank you for writing this. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #3

Add my thanks, too. nt Nay Feb 2020 #53

And mine. Well said. KPN Feb 2020 #67

This is false uponit7771 Feb 2020 #4

I am truly astounded... ProgressDiv Feb 2020 #50

I mean it won't stop, look at the response to your reasonable confoundment joethedrummer Feb 2020 #84

Lol, great response and details! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #77

I believe it is because people are tired of being used by big donations taking Dustlawyer Feb 2020 #5

Warren is upsetting it in reality. Who nailed Wells Fargo? blm Feb 2020 #18

6 Million Fake Bank Accounts And No One Goes To Jail DanieRains Feb 2020 #37

Yes, and? ProgressDiv Feb 2020 #57

Claiming that Bernie is upsetting the system with NO recognition blm Feb 2020 #72

You summed up PERFECTLY why We The People are sick of accepting CRUMBS & are ready to elect Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #64

Bravo! I actually cheered inside as I read your essay. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #6

If The Money Is Taken Away The MSM Won't Be Getting Billions In Ad Revenue DanieRains Feb 2020 #39

I know, it is a Catch 22. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #65

Horserace! Food Fight! DanieRains Feb 2020 #69

You won't get an honest conversation about Bernie. One reason, moderate Dems Autumn Feb 2020 #7

Surprised you aren't behind the one person who actually performed, blm Feb 2020 #8

I would happily support Warren, but of the two, Bernie has a much greater chance DanTex Feb 2020 #10

He's surrounded by people who are liars and demagogues. blm Feb 2020 #11

I'm not hate-filled or dumbed-down, and I would gladly accept Warren as our candidate. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #12

I clearly specified the 'faction' of reactionaries that exist. blm Feb 2020 #13

Hated you a bit in 2016. Bonobo Feb 2020 #9

Bernie Sanders is a good man. Lunch Lady Feb 2020 #14

91% in Nevada couldn't be bothered, or wanted someone else. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #15

Using your mathematical logic, over half of America rejected Obama Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #32

91% is greater than "over half" NurseJackie Feb 2020 #59

Shall I crunch the numbers? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #63

Most the primaries woulbbe the same! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #78

These figures do not square with the "unbridled enthusiasm" and THRONGS of people... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #79

14% of dems voted in 2016 primaries! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #81

So it's down this year. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #82

Lol, yes, 86% voting is so much better than 91%. Nice try! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #86

91% didn't vote for him. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #88

What's even worse is that the "drift towards the center" gave Republicans the confidence to Yavin4 Feb 2020 #16

Yup. zentrum Feb 2020 #25

Nope nope nope nope nope nope. Alliepoo Feb 2020 #17

An honest conversation doesn't start with a flawed premise. /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #19

What flawed premise? Have you looked at the polls? DanTex Feb 2020 #20

+1...nt SidDithers Feb 2020 #24

Bernie has popped the Centrist bubble. Denial and outrage is the logical outcome for many of them. jalan48 Feb 2020 #21

Bottom of the 1st and the BernieBots whistler162 Feb 2020 #94

Good observations. I love the Dem party, but our leadership hasn't focused enough attention on some JudyM Feb 2020 #22

All true. zentrum Feb 2020 #23

Right on DanTex!!!! floppyboo Feb 2020 #26

Because though his ideals are good edhopper Feb 2020 #27

Agree! ananda Feb 2020 #28

Thank goodness we don't need Independent voters! Mars and Minerva Feb 2020 #29

no he isn't llashram Feb 2020 #30

"...supported by the majority of the American people." Got national polls for that? ancianita Feb 2020 #31

Of course. DanTex Feb 2020 #38

You missed this on M4A.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #44

He's hardly the only Dem candidate who promotes those, and certainly not the ehrnst Feb 2020 #47

Big difference between supporting the policies in the abstract and supporting Sanders himself Orrex Feb 2020 #52

Mind if I take them one by one? ancianita Feb 2020 #58

These mean nothing, swing states decide presidents not national polls. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #90

HOW DOES HE PAY FOR ALL THAT PIE??? Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #33

Check out the links above. ancianita Feb 2020 #40

Well Aviation Pro Feb 2020 #34

2 things wryter2000 Feb 2020 #35

Unhappy response to the other OP that starts an "honest conversation about Bernie" ehrnst Feb 2020 #42

You are absolutely correct, however over the next two weeks, emotions will be high at DU Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #43

That's a nice step back to take in more scenery Harker Feb 2020 #68

Bravo! fallout87 Feb 2020 #46

The choir cheers the choir at the opera. Impressive.... n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #71

A MAJORITY is 50+1 Moderateguy Feb 2020 #48

At least in my neck of the woods, the OP is incorrect... Sancho Feb 2020 #49

How can you say someone with about 30% of the vote so far is hugely popular? I don't get it. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #51

In addition to popular ideas, a candidate also needs a proven track record of accomplishments dlk Feb 2020 #54

Wrong... scipan Feb 2020 #75

How many of these pieces of legislation were someone else's that he signed on to? dlk Feb 2020 #89

JOB ONE: GET TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #55

Well said. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #56

If he's aligned with Democratic values, Why isn't he a democrat? Prue Feb 2020 #60

K&R and Thank you. mountain grammy Feb 2020 #61

PHENOMENAL POST DAN!! Indeed, you win the pro-Bernie Post of Day... Johnnie tell Dan what he's won!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #62

It doesn't matter where the conversation begins. cab67 Feb 2020 #66

Good post n/t Prue Feb 2020 #70

Why meaningless? scipan Feb 2020 #73

Because they mean nothing. cab67 Feb 2020 #74

Um, it is a little dishonest to state that Democrats in a few small... NNadir Feb 2020 #80

✔️ blm Feb 2020 #87

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #83

Florida Democratic Party disavows Sanders. Gothmog Feb 2020 #91

Biden campaign response to sanders praising Fidel Castro Gothmog Feb 2020 #92

NTSA whistler162 Feb 2020 #93