Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Medicare for All is a fatal loser in the general election [View all]Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)First, if a democrat wins the election I think we can make sure we dont lose existing protections but we might need to pass something depending on the supreme court case. If we lose the election they are gone. Its between improving healthcare and losing healthcare.
If you have no insurance today medicare for all is going to feel somewhat more secure than a promise that buy in will be fully subsidized for you. Hard to say how much for me. More sure is people in that position arent going to be swayed by the attacks that taxes will go up and theyll lose choices.
If you get gold plated insurance from your job the uncertainty of what a new plan is, prospect of taxes going up and just the idea of having something taken away will make buy in attractive.
In the middle of those two poles is where itll be interesting. A cheaper alternative vs being forced into a plan seems like an easier sell to me. The attack ads and biases media will be everywhere.
In liberal strongholds like California cities and New York city area, theres enough of a thought mass to reinforce our message whatever it is. In battleground states the conversations will have people who just listened to an hour of talking points on fox news or talk radio.
I think no new taxes and you get an extra choice with buy in is an easier counter argument there. Explaining that your taxes might go up and you cant keep your current plan but you do come out ahead is actually difficult to explain. Ive challenged people in threads to give us better words but they dont seem to have any.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden