Democratic Primaries

thesquanderer

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18. Oh, he rarely bests Biden. That wasn't the criteria I was looking at, because...

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:57 PM

Feb 2020

...I thought the question was only one of whether Sanders has demonstrated the ability to beat Trump in the swing states, by more than the MoE. And I did provide a couple of examples where he has, from this month and last. If you meant he doesn't beat him by AS MUCH as Biden does, that's true. But he HAS shown the recent ability to poll in those swing states ahead of Trump, by amounts beyond the MoE. Doing it more than Biden does is a different question, so either the goal posts moved or I misunderstood where they were in the first place.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So many of the anti-Bernie attacks are about what "other people" will think. [View all] DanTex Feb 2020 OP

Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most uponit7771 Feb 2020 #1

Are you talking about polls? Or something else? thesquanderer Feb 2020 #4

Historical data nothing recent uponit7771 Feb 2020 #5

I'm confused, are you looking for really historical or for recent? But either way... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #7

Sanders has not bested Biden in the swing states in the last 3 months uponit7771 Feb 2020 #16

Oh, he rarely bests Biden. That wasn't the criteria I was looking at, because... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #18

There's no historical data, last 3 months where Sanders is beating Trump beyond MOE or uponit7771 Feb 2020 #19

MOST of the swing states? How many, and which ones? More qualifiers! But to start... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #20

Swing states from wikipedia uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24

Ah, the whole shebang! I was focussed on the big three that would have made a difference in 2016. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #26

Wiki narrows it to 4 and the last 3 months Sanders isn't beating Biden vs Trump, Ohio is lost imho uponit7771 Feb 2020 #27

Right, I've never contested that "Sanders isn't beating Biden vs Trump" only that... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #29

👍 uponit7771 Feb 2020 #31

Expanding on this... Mad cow Feb 2020 #9

You had me laughing here Rilgin Feb 2020 #6

Don't have to be at top of ticket Biden best all candidates in swing states against Red Don ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #17

Bernie is doing better in most swing states than Biden. OliverQ Feb 2020 #32

Maybe now but Swing state polling goes back to pre primary post convention. Sanders isn't uponit7771 Feb 2020 #33

Sanders is doing better with the demographics that matter. OliverQ Feb 2020 #34

Better than what? luke warm? Again, snapshot data doesn't count. If there was a 3 month ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #35

Swing voters are going to decide the election. RDANGELO Feb 2020 #2

And apparently on 2/3 of those find Sanders to be acceptable... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #8

That 2/3 is more than feel that way about Biden, Bloomberg, or ANY other candidate. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #10

If he's doing THAT poorly among Democrats... he doesn't stand a chance in the General Election. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #11

Look at those numbers again., He is NOT doing that poorly among Dems, because... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #12

He is a divider. He is a socialist. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #14

If you're not going to vote for anyone unless more than 2/3 of Dems are comfortable with them... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #15

It takes a lot of people to win a presidential election RandySF Feb 2020 #3

"Other people" are the people I had to turn out when I was a Party Ward Committeeman... brooklynite Feb 2020 #13

Prioritizing what "other people" think puts you in a weak position. Yavin4 Feb 2020 #21

You're wrong, I think. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #25

"shirtless in Moscow". LOLOL R B Garr Feb 2020 #22

You're kidding yourself, I think. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #23

I think you give people too much credit. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2020 #28

If it's not as bad as the cat grabber, don't worry about it. kentuck Feb 2020 #30

It's a very weak kind of argument. Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #36