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Blue_true

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87. I own a business and owned one that failed.

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:40 PM

Feb 2020

I am the person in charge. It is not as cut and dried as you make it out to be. People flirt or have relationships and fall out with eachother, that leaves an owner fumbling through the employment manual trying to figure out what to do. In my first business I got to the point where I could not afford lawyers to help me out, so if I got sued for making a good faith bad decision, I was screwed.

Believe me, IT IS NOT as cut and dried as you make it out from the perspective as a business owner and there are times when I just don't want to deal with interpersonal shit that falls into my lap, I just want to focus on products, so there is a desire to just overlook some things that people hit me with. I wanted to raise this point in an earlier post but backed off because of a conversation that I had yesterday with a person that felt some people on DU bragged about what they have (the person singled out one in particular).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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A copy of one of the sexual harassment/discrimination lawsuits against Bloomberg. [View all] pnwmom Feb 2020 OP

Bloomberg and his executives are such disgusting people. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #1

I know. It sounds like the stuff Trump did Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #52

+1 myohmy2 Feb 2020 #119

Here is the drip drip drip... mysteryowl Feb 2020 #2

Precisely. dotism Feb 2020 #13

Welcome to DU! mysteryowl Feb 2020 #22

Yay! dotism Feb 2020 #23

There is something very fishy about Bloomberg's current actions. raging moderate Feb 2020 #3

Once again lets go over this. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #18

By the way I don't care for Bloomberg. Butterflylady Feb 2020 #19

Still doesn't explain why he supported Bush in 04 and McCain in 08. Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #27

Her supported McCain and Palin over Obama and Biden.....that is not a Democrat. Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #51

And along the way endorsed Republicans up and down the ballot liskddksil Feb 2020 #62

re: "He ran as as a Republican only to run for mayor" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #114

I have to say while teaching is a hard job and all dsc Feb 2020 #4

One of my relatives worked in the financial industry in that time period and she told pnwmom Feb 2020 #7

I just have to say it mystifies me. dsc Feb 2020 #9

People insist on applying today's work environment to the 80s Blue_true Feb 2020 #33

Bloomberg was in control of that work environment and they weren't ALL like that. pnwmom Feb 2020 #35

None of the places you worked at were. Blue_true Feb 2020 #37

And you weren't in charge of them. But Bloomberg WAS in charge and set the example pnwmom Feb 2020 #38

Good points. And, I worked in an environment like that spooky3 Feb 2020 #44

The reasons why they allowed it to go on varies. Blue_true Feb 2020 #91

I think if you read the .pdf, you won't see many grey areas there. nt spooky3 Feb 2020 #99

I own a business and owned one that failed. Blue_true Feb 2020 #87

Did you even read the lawsuit? She's not accusing him or the other men of "flirting." pnwmom Feb 2020 #90

Yes, that is over the line. I never witnessed any boss personally Blue_true Feb 2020 #108

This. I remember when the ADA came out in 1990 that made it so there was actually some Squinch Feb 2020 #56

People ignored the first attempts. Hillary coming into the White House in 93 Blue_true Feb 2020 #93

In finance, ALL of them were. Squinch Feb 2020 #55

I believe the head of his company is a thirties or forties something woman. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #94

I worked in the financial industry in that time period. That was the norm. Yes, we hated Squinch Feb 2020 #54

How come no one in the financial industry understood it was wrong, and yet plenty of people pnwmom Feb 2020 #57

I went from a financial company to a financial publishing company. The publishing company Squinch Feb 2020 #58

My favorite job was with a large polling company. pnwmom Feb 2020 #59

What has he done since the norm changed? Squinch Feb 2020 #60

How would we know? When women would complain, he'd have them sign NDA's. pnwmom Feb 2020 #61

Three did. I wonder what those years were. I suppose we'll soon find out, since he released Squinch Feb 2020 #63

Three that we know of. Three that he's agreed to release. pnwmom Feb 2020 #64

They were the ones that were against him. I really don't understand why people keep saying things Squinch Feb 2020 #65

I have never seen him make such a public statement. Link, please? pnwmom Feb 2020 #67

Here: Squinch Feb 2020 #68

All that says is that he's told 3 women who complained about 'comments they said pnwmom Feb 2020 #69

If there were any NDAs that his staff failed to uncover, HOW DOES HE STOP THEM FROM Squinch Feb 2020 #70

Because he's only publicly announced the release of the three women, who, he said pnwmom Feb 2020 #72

So again. If there is someone they missed, HOW DO THE THREE KNOW THEY ARE THE THREE Squinch Feb 2020 #75

And about the gender discrimination: I am a whole lot less offended by Bloomberg running Squinch Feb 2020 #66

You met an amazing person in that top VP. That was a rarity in the industry Blue_true Feb 2020 #102

I worked in an engineering company. The women when I came in were Blue_true Feb 2020 #98

I did not work around female colleagues until the mid 80's. Blue_true Feb 2020 #32

that handmade34 Feb 2020 #5

Wasn't this lawsuit tossed out? left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #6

Not tossed out. It was settled and she signed an NDA. pnwmom Feb 2020 #8

Soooo ... left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #12

It wasn't just a single lawsuit. There were multiple lawsuits by multiple women, which is the point pnwmom Feb 2020 #15

I'm reading in another post that it was 67. In a company of 20,000 people. That's actually Squinch Feb 2020 #73

The question is about how many were against HIM. We still don't know. nt pnwmom Feb 2020 #74

Yes we do. It was three. And I think you know that. Squinch Feb 2020 #76

I don't have the implicit faith in him that you do. His statement seemed very narrowly tailored pnwmom Feb 2020 #78

I don't have implicitfaith in him. I am logically looking at the fact that he released anyone with Squinch Feb 2020 #79

67 claims of harrassement... whats one more that he settled jmg257 Feb 2020 #24

Against a company of 20,000 employees? That's actually an excellent record. Squinch Feb 2020 #71

Do you not understand how settlement works? Because of spooky3 Feb 2020 #30

That works both ways. The object of the complaint has an incentive to settle even if they did not Squinch Feb 2020 #77

They do, but my primary point is that settlements typically mean that there was at least SOME spooky3 Feb 2020 #81

And I am saying that is not true. There can be NO merit to the complaint and good reasons to settle. Squinch Feb 2020 #82

You are stating your opinion, and I am stating mine, about what happens, in real life. spooky3 Feb 2020 #83

No. That's not an opinion. Baseless claims are settled all the time. And if you teach Squinch Feb 2020 #88

This is getting tiresome. Go back and read my first post, which did NOT claim spooky3 Feb 2020 #104

And as I said, though the 1964 act was there, it had no provisions for how to fight a claim of Squinch Feb 2020 #107

YOU ARE INCORRECT. Check out Meritor Savings Bank v. Vinson (1986 USSC). spooky3 Feb 2020 #109

Women had won court cases before then. pnwmom Feb 2020 #111

. redqueen Feb 2020 #47

So, pretend an illustration is an attack. Geez, indeed. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #53

Is this one of the 3 women that Bloomberg just released from the NDA? If not, why not? Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #16

Wonder if this is one of the 3 chosen to be released from her NDA. Somehow, I doubt it. jmg257 Feb 2020 #10

I think she was. This copy was already out there, so what further harm could happen to him? n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #11

It's what could happen to us if Bloomberg loses to Trump. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #31

There are no assault charges. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #34

Garrison talked about one of the employees grabbing her. And Bloomberg created an atmosphere pnwmom Feb 2020 #36

Oh for gods sake. Bloomberg BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #39

Women usually don't press assault charges against their employers. But some of them do pnwmom Feb 2020 #41

Did you actually read the document? Garrett78 Feb 2020 #46

I mean sexual harassment charges, but those are still very bad. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #45

THANK YOU! redqueen Feb 2020 #48

Disgusting. I could't read the whole complaint. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2020 #14

Yikes. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #17

Wow.That is ugly stuff. I need to take a shower after reading that. nt tblue37 Feb 2020 #20

Seriously, fuck that guy. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #21

We Potatoes were discussing billionaires today... Baked Potato Feb 2020 #25

Some are kinder, maybe. dotism Feb 2020 #28

Yeah, Steyer seems like a good one. The billionaires Baked Potato Feb 2020 #29

All of these lawsuits were amicably settled by both parties. democratisphere Feb 2020 #26

Lol. Yeah with a payoff and an NDA. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #40

Happens all the time in the corporate world. democratisphere Feb 2020 #43

LOL - yep 6 figure payoffs can buy a lot of friends! jmg257 Feb 2020 #50

I had to stop reading it; Triggered. denem Feb 2020 #42

Yeah. Let him go ahead and start firing at Bernie. He should do it and find out redqueen Feb 2020 #49

Bloomberg has been accused of running a company that was guilty of sex discrimination in Squinch Feb 2020 #80

That's nice for you. Make a list of all the noxious things each have said about / done to women redqueen Feb 2020 #84

Yep. He's said horrible things. And he's been a loyal and enormous supporter of Squinch Feb 2020 #86

Also a loyal supporter of GW Bush. redqueen Feb 2020 #89

And Liz was a Republican till she was 47. And Harry Reid had to stop Bernie from primarying Obama. Squinch Feb 2020 #92

Funny that you bring up Warren, since Bloomberg donated to get opponent. redqueen Feb 2020 #96

Yes he did. And that was terrible. But it was to reward him for his vote to pass a gun control law. Squinch Feb 2020 #97

You measure Bernie's record against Bloomberg's and come down on the side of Bloomberg. redqueen Feb 2020 #100

My only hope is that he can buy it back from trump. I'll stop sparring now. I wish you well. Squinch Feb 2020 #103

Thanks, and back atcha nt redqueen Feb 2020 #115

Can I interrupt and say I don't like how EITHER of them have dealt with this? nt spooky3 Feb 2020 #106

Sure, of course. I'd expect you won't be voting for him in the primary. redqueen Feb 2020 #113

It goes beyond discrimination though wildflower Feb 2020 #117

It's disgusting to see people working so hard to defend Bloomberg on this redqueen Feb 2020 #85

Um, yes. Whether you think it's disgusting or not, there was not even a law that gave women Squinch Feb 2020 #95

Did you mean the civil rights act of 1964? redqueen Feb 2020 #112

He should go ahead and drop out now budkin Feb 2020 #101

Indeed. dotism Feb 2020 #105

All candidates should be held to a standard concerning allegations like this. lapucelle Feb 2020 #110

Totally agree. Nt spooky3 Feb 2020 #116

Hear, hear! nt dotism Feb 2020 #118