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Uncle Joe

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9. Hi Cha, I believe this article by The Nation gives a more in-depth analysis of the situation
Sat Apr 6, 2019, 07:48 PM
Apr 2019


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Sanders has a much better case to make, and for some reason he hasn’t fully made it. He had a very specific reason for suggesting a Democratic primary in 2012: In debt-ceiling talks with Republicans, Obama proposed cutting Social Security benefits and raising the Medicare age to 67. After initially refusing to negotiate over the debt ceiling, the White House pivoted to a full-scale embrace of austerity in the hopes of taking away the Republican Party’s main talking point ahead of the 2012 election.

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Obama actually proposed more deficit reduction in the summer of 2011 than Republicans were asking for—$4 trillion instead of the $2 trillion the GOP had been requesting—and at times the White House was reportedly willing to raise revenue only through closing tax loopholes. That meant in addition to the safety net cuts, the Bush-era tax cuts would either be locked in or even lowered in some cases.

This was a monumental diversion from Democratic Party principles. For years, Democrats ran for office on promises not to cut Social Security and Medicare. They railed against the Bush tax cuts in every election cycle since the tax package was enacted. Republicans already enjoyed bashing Democrats for supposed safety-net cuts; one of the most frequently run advertisements of the 2010 midterms noted the Affordable Care Act cut $700 million from Medicare. (These cuts were mainly on the provider side and did not affect benefits, which was never mentioned in the ads.)

Aside from being potentially catastrophic politics, the Social Security and Medicare cuts were bad policy. Increasing the Medicare age would have lowered federal health spending but increased overall health spending by much more, and would have left many seniors uninsured. Obama’s method for reducing Social Security benefits by changing the Chained-CPI formula would have resulted in fairly minimal long-term budget savings but would have cost the average senior $28,000 by age 95.

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https://www.thenation.com/article/yes-bernie-sanders-wanted-obama-primaried-in-2012-heres-why/




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Did Bernie remind the audience how John Lewis was booed BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #1
.. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #2
Cute but, did Bernie remind the audience how John Lewis was booed by his supporters? George II Apr 2019 #4
And, how he wanted President Cha Apr 2019 #8
I find Reverend Al's wording... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #27
I was there when this happened Gothmog Apr 2019 #29
It's too bad BS didn't listen to that himself around May or June 2016 n/t SFnomad Apr 2019 #15
And, how he wanted President Obama Cha Apr 2019 #3
Hi Cha, I believe this article by The Nation gives a more in-depth analysis of the situation Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #9
Careful, Uncle Joe. Too much truth at once! rgbecker Apr 2019 #23
It can be a hard balance sometimes to criticize the political leaders that you respect. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #24
Pushing for a primary of President Obama was a dumb move Gothmog Apr 2019 #30
Thank you Reverend Al for praising Bernie for living up to his word... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #5
Yeah ... let's trust Bernie BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #7
I DO trust Bernie, emphatically!! No need to be scared of Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #10
No kidding? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #17
Al has not formally endorsed anyone yet but I am encouraged by his statement. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #11
Reverend Al's statement is about as close to an endorsement as you can get! Thanks for sharing! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #13
He invites all the candidates to his conference and says nice things about them. marylandblue Apr 2019 #16
You're not trusting Bernie enough BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #18
Thanks Al for the kind words Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #6
This is starting to feel like the JackPine Radical days padah513 Apr 2019 #12
What does JackPine Radical have to do with this OP? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #14
They're baaaaaaack BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #19
Welcome baaaaaaack to you too! A lot of us never left. Autumn Apr 2019 #21
"Us"? Hmmmm. George II Apr 2019 #32
Hmmmm. Yeah "Us" Bernie supporters. A lot of us stayed, never got FFR or banned. Autumn Apr 2019 #34
I know, right? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #33
Yeah Autumn Apr 2019 #35
Better Believe It! MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #36
Better Believe It! Banned in 2008. Autumn Apr 2019 #37
Thanks for posting. David__77 Apr 2019 #20
Thank you David. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Apr 2019 #25
The Reverend Al was probably my favorite personality on MSNBC. CentralMass Apr 2019 #26
That's the truth Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #28
Yes, even when he's wrong. He still hasn't apologized for the Tawana Brawley incident. George II Apr 2019 #31
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