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TomCADem

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99. Siding With Gun Makers Is Now Liberal?

Reply to Devil Child (Reply #98)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:22 AM

Feb 2020

I guess we should also side with pharmaceutical companies in opiod lawuits as well?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders Doubles Down On Support for Law That Protects Gun Sellers From Lawsuits [View all] TomCADem Feb 2020 OP

I bet Fred Guttenberg is sad to see this. Cha Feb 2020 #1

Very sad. I'm sure. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #41

Yes. Cha Feb 2020 #75

I Agree DanieRains Feb 2020 #2

as long as a company follows the law then it should be protected by the law. jg10003 Feb 2020 #3

+1! tecelote Feb 2020 #7

Why shouldn't victims be able to sue if the company markets an unreasonably dangerous weapon? SunSeeker Feb 2020 #8

Valid questions. jg10003 Feb 2020 #14

Invalid answers. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #18

idiocy 5X Feb 2020 #79

Yes. If you are profiting from selling guns Tweedy Feb 2020 #105

The problem is an assault rifle is only extra dangerous due to magazine capacity Amishman Feb 2020 #17

Oh God. Not this shit again. It's not just the capacity. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #19

That's true about any rifle in similar calibers madville Feb 2020 #35

I agree with you that the AR is an effective weapon by design. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #43

The AR is not a self defense weapon. It is an assault weapon. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #74

It's LArider Feb 2020 #94

Bullshit. It works great on mowing down large numbers of humans in minutes. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #96

The gungeon is the only place I won't enter. xmas74 Feb 2020 #113

It's not a hobby LArider Feb 2020 #114

It keeps coming up because it is the truth Amishman Feb 2020 #66

Assault weapon features Shermann Feb 2020 #69

No it's not the truth, and I explained why in this thread. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #71

Absolutely false hack89 Feb 2020 #76

Because the BATFE aaproved them as a reasonable firearms. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #32

He wants to *ban* assault weapons. Plus the March for Our Lives confounders just endorsed him JudyM Feb 2020 #111

Totally agree! TheFarseer Feb 2020 #36

Their version of following the law dsc Feb 2020 #37

What do mean by targeting children? aikoaiko Feb 2020 #45

through video games and other media they advertised their guns dsc Feb 2020 #48

Really? You're a part of the video games causes gun violence crowd? aikoaiko Feb 2020 #85

It sure does help sell guns dsc Feb 2020 #87

If the so-called marketing of gun in video games is not causing gun violence... aikoaiko Feb 2020 #91

yes the sales of guns is totally unrelated to violence dsc Feb 2020 #92

We did sell a lot of guns as gun homicides plummetted from the early 1990s aikoaiko Feb 2020 #93

Gun manufacturers don't sell directly to the public hack89 Feb 2020 #77

right and drug traffickers don't sell to the public either dsc Feb 2020 #81

So crack down on the shady gun dealers. hack89 Feb 2020 #83

The law Sanders voted for also banned that dsc Feb 2020 #84

It absolutely did not hack89 Feb 2020 #86

that we can't enforce because of the NRA dsc Feb 2020 #88

Time for you to post an excerpt from the law hack89 Feb 2020 #89

The NRA wouldn't have *any* power The Mouth Feb 2020 #110

Sanders has always supported shielding gun manufacturers from liability pecosbob Feb 2020 #115

Purism. David__77 Feb 2020 #4

Exactly HopeAgain Feb 2020 #101

That is so fucked up. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #5

Vaccine producers enjoy special immunity too aikoaiko Feb 2020 #46

well except that they pay into a fund which pays out the claims dsc Feb 2020 #50

Their product is encouraged for the public good. Blue_true Feb 2020 #97

They are not immune from liability hack89 Feb 2020 #78

Sanders' statement is logical Martin Eden Feb 2020 #6

Sanders' statement is an NRA talking point. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #11

Legal to manufacture and sell, but not to market? Martin Eden Feb 2020 #42

K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #9

perhaps one position that is helpful in GE? AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #10

No. His stance in support of gun manufacturer immunity will not get him any votes. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #12

Yep, tRump is a gun-owners dream candidate. Why would they switch to Bernie? n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #39

Trump is actually quite vulnerable with RKBA types. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #64

It will probably hurt him in the GE jmowreader Feb 2020 #13

If we do not want them to build them, then we have to make them illegal. jmg257 Feb 2020 #15

No, we just need to repeal the PLCAA. Civil suits will do the rest. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #21

Agreed, its like trying legislate via lawsuits, instead of laws. Nt jmg257 Feb 2020 #25

His reasoning is valid Shermann Feb 2020 #16

Oy, again with the NRA bullshit hammer talking point. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #20

You seem to be conflating assault rifles with lawn darts Shermann Feb 2020 #23

I'm not conflating anything. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #24

JFC. This is sad. I wonder how much octoberlib Feb 2020 #22

Who Knows?? LovingA2andMI Feb 2020 #26

We are not repugs and will not act the way they do. lark Feb 2020 #27

That law was mainly about protecting the companies that supply our war machine madville Feb 2020 #28

No, it was about ARs that were about to flood the civilian market. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #29

ARs with high capacity magazines madville Feb 2020 #33

mass shooting plummeted during the reign of this toothless law dsc Feb 2020 #38

Whatever the reason, it had nothing to do with the availability of such weapons under the ban madville Feb 2020 #44

really it was all a giant coincidence dsc Feb 2020 #47

The end of the ban lead to a huge sales and marketing push to sell these weapons madville Feb 2020 #53

/ Yes - This exactly. jmg257 Feb 2020 #58

Plummeted - yes indeed! - went from 68 to 53. jmg257 Feb 2020 #52

that is nearly 20 percent dsc Feb 2020 #55

Yes I know -1+ death per year!!! WOO HOO! The ban was basically useless, as it did nothing jmg257 Feb 2020 #57

THANK YOU redqueen Feb 2020 #59

ARs with cosmetic changes were still available during the AWB. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #49

No. The connection is not weak. It's spot on. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #72

The rifle used at Sandy Hook was legal during the "ban" hack89 Feb 2020 #82

AR15 production peaked during the "ban" hack89 Feb 2020 #80

SOOOO "progressive" (swooooon) ❤️❤️❤️ ❤️❤️❤️ wyldwolf Feb 2020 #30

Bernie is right about this. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #31

I also need to hear riverwalker Feb 2020 #34

When I put a screw through my thumb, I didn't sue DeWalt over the drill. Autumn Feb 2020 #40

Maybe you should have Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #62

Why would I? I was the one controlling the drill. Had I put the tool though someone else's finger I Autumn Feb 2020 #63

But they can make it so you can't put the drill through your finger and the manufacturers wont do it Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #65

Given your drill experience, would you mind doing us all a favor... jberryhill Feb 2020 #102

This is the main reason I will not vote for him. period. randr Feb 2020 #51

Bernie won in 1990 with the support of the NRA. nycbos Feb 2020 #54

He won because he was a unknown, not because they owned him. Lancero Feb 2020 #108

He wasn't unknown. nycbos Feb 2020 #112

From the 2016 Democratic Platform. lapucelle Feb 2020 #56

NRA contributions in 1...2....3... NCProgressive Feb 2020 #60

This is pretty simple Bayard Feb 2020 #61

A very effective ad from Joe Biden that highlights Bernie's position on suing gun manufacturers. Gothmog Feb 2020 #67

A must see. On the morning of the Sandy Hook shooting dalton99a Feb 2020 #70

I actually agree with Sanders here. tritsofme Feb 2020 #68

Exactly Calculating Feb 2020 #118

Jesus..you just cannot make this stuff up Peacetrain Feb 2020 #73

Should I be allowed to sue the Twinkee corporation for making me fat? JFlash Feb 2020 #90

I agree with him. LArider Feb 2020 #95

Hell yeah Sen. Sanders!!! Devil Child Feb 2020 #98

Siding With Gun Makers Is Now Liberal? TomCADem Feb 2020 #99

I'm not concerned if my stance is definable as "liberal" or not Devil Child Feb 2020 #100

I agree with you. David__77 Feb 2020 #103

Well, Bernie Just Argued That This Was a Bad Vote on His Part TomCADem Feb 2020 #116

Didn't watch the debate, if this is true not an action I respect or agree with Devil Child Feb 2020 #120

It's a slippery slope... fallout87 Feb 2020 #104

Thank you @JoeBiden for these comments and for your commitment to repeal PLCCA. Gothmog Feb 2020 #106

I just can't respect him for this. We're not living in the 1700's any more. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #107

D.U. is Much more anti-gun than the people in a LOT of The Mouth Feb 2020 #109

+1 n/t Devil Child Feb 2020 #121

Good Calculating Feb 2020 #117

Well, Then Don't Vote For Bernie, Because... TomCADem Feb 2020 #119