Democratic Primaries

oasis

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68. Purist malcontents who stayed home, ended up with zero.

Reply to mcar (Reply #27)

Sat Apr 6, 2019, 10:00 PM

Apr 2019

Did the learn from that experience?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Barack Obama Warns Progressive Purists That Their 'Circular Firing Squad' Will Only Help Trump [View all] babylonsister Apr 2019 OP

"...and that by definition means you're not going to get 100 percent of what you want." NurseJackie Apr 2019 #1

The ACA could be improved upon, it's pretty obvious. Agschmid Apr 2019 #3

It was a huge giveaway to the insurance companies in the end madville Apr 2019 #5

You are right! at140 Apr 2019 #8

You didn't hear what Obama said I take it. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #34

I am guessing more people like "private" insurance at140 Apr 2019 #42

"But this is not a contest in popularity." Steven Maurer Apr 2019 #84

I am fortunate to have good private insurance too. marylandblue Apr 2019 #123

You are correct on many counts...nt at140 Apr 2019 #124

Millions of people have health care. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #56

Millions were also forced to buy overpriced health insurance madville Apr 2019 #61

You don't get it wecwon 18 because of the ACA. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #63

Our family pays more in zentrum Apr 2019 #100

Our family pays less than Medicare for all. And blame Trump when 100,000 Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #112

Excellent point! Why we need single-payer healthcare for all! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #126

Yup. zentrum Apr 2019 #98

The ACA True Blue American Apr 2019 #4

Might need a helmet as well at140 Apr 2019 #9

People seem to forget this mcar Apr 2019 #27

Bingo! nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #33

i haven't forgetten.. and I wonder who Cha Apr 2019 #47

Let's hope they learned from 2016 mcar Apr 2019 #69

Yeah, I hope at Cha Apr 2019 #71

Has to mcar Apr 2019 #75

Purist malcontents who stayed home, ended up with zero. oasis Apr 2019 #68

They weren't a factor in 2018 mcar Apr 2019 #70

Got an stats to prove that? progressoid Apr 2019 #106

We could have just passed a less shitty law in the first place. MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #128

Oh good grief. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #129

No, we coudn't. sfwriter Apr 2019 #130

We were sold "Yes we can," not "No, we can't." MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #133

I agree, "Yes We Can" will work better. MasonDreams Apr 2019 #138

K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #2

Amen to that. That stupid litmus test will be the end of us and the beginning of tyranny. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #6

Yes Sir: That's How We Got The Orange Buffoon. Thanks To Susan Sarandon and Her Ilk DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #7

No Sir Ferrets are Cool Apr 2019 #76

There was a healthy dose of Russian propaganda pushed from the Jill Stein surrogates. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #88

And the Russian princess Stein. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #113

I think we need an Armed Forces member or Veteran MasonDreams Apr 2019 #139

I'm glad HE said it. Say it here & you get criticized. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #10

My, my. His hair is so grey now! charlyvi Apr 2019 #11

Unwelcome advice Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #12

That's the thing about "purity" no matter where you are on the political spectrum, everybody Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #14

Yup, the "purists" just have to realize they can't keep using the ACA as a litmus test... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35

Germany and Switzerland have mixed public/private insurance marylandblue Apr 2019 #45

Maybe... I think it's definitely worth debating and let the candidate with the best solution win! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #48

Yes, Yes both will work well, and together! MasonDreams Apr 2019 #140

indeed.. Locrian Apr 2019 #24

Yup. KPN Apr 2019 #90

People shold consider who can win. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #114

Absolutely- but not at the cost of good governance Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #119

Yeah well if we don't win than Trump will destroy this country. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #125

All the more reason to impeach Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #127

I would agree if we could convict. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #131

DU rec... SidDithers Apr 2019 #13

Tim Ryan talked today about how Russians infilterate True Blue American Apr 2019 #16

and canadians Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #104

But we're the smart ones. snort Apr 2019 #15

... shanny Apr 2019 #53

Obama is too cautious herel DallasNE Apr 2019 #17

The reason people didn't vote is because they didn't vote. No one else's fault. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #36

Bingo. fleabiscuit Apr 2019 #77

Exactly, wasupaloopa! Cha Apr 2019 #81

I agree.. whathehell Apr 2019 #55

There were no options McConnell was not going to give... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #57

I know, Dems.. but there are those who Cha Apr 2019 #73

Yeah and really some of these folks don't understand how message voting helps the GOP. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #115

There was no Way to get a vote on Garland Cha Apr 2019 #72

I think that would be 4500th one the list of why people didn't vote treestar Apr 2019 #93

We must live in alternate realities. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #134

Cute DallasNE Apr 2019 #137

He's going to have to help destroy Sanders mr_liberal Apr 2019 #18

Yes on the subject line BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #31

Wha? Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #38

Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #49

So that would be an example of how not to have a "circular firing squad"? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #105

He won't need to BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #135

this country is so far right that progressives seem like purists just for wanting what most rainy Apr 2019 #19

Amen! Doitnow Apr 2019 #22

Exactly Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #37

It is a center left country...and the mistake Some progressives make is thinking most Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #62

Well if that were true than the country would be left not right. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #116

Now if some of us would only listen to the wisest guy in any room he's in. marble falls Apr 2019 #20

An exemplary human being, no question shanny Apr 2019 #51

I believe anyone has the right to run for any office and the people should decide Doitnow Apr 2019 #21

That's true in a perfect democracy. defacto7 Apr 2019 #25

Up until the time we need to pull together to win. Running in spite of everyone wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #39

No one is disagreeing with the right to run and the people deciding. The post was about not c-rational Apr 2019 #41

The purists helped us lose in 2016 ... I'd say let's hope they've learned from their mistakes SFnomad Apr 2019 #23

He speaks from experience mcar Apr 2019 #26

Ha! that's what I said.. Cha Apr 2019 #52

Out of anyone he should know how it works in politics. FloridaBlues Apr 2019 #28

Bravo! Socal31 Apr 2019 #29

I miss him terribly. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #32

Yep. Inkfreak Apr 2019 #30

Dear Mr President Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #40

all of them... stillcool Apr 2019 #46

And how does one build a majority shanny Apr 2019 #54

how do you get... stillcool Apr 2019 #66

Codswollop. shanny Apr 2019 #78

I don't get ... stillcool Apr 2019 #91

Why are you deflecting to state governments? Do they enact laws on the national stage? shanny Apr 2019 #99

Amen doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #102

+1 shanny Apr 2019 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Apr 2019 #121

Look at the EC and the Senate treestar Apr 2019 #94

You know we win when we turn out shanny Apr 2019 #95

well that ought to get people excited about voting Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #64

use it or lose it... stillcool Apr 2019 #67

You don't give up policies . You choose the one that are most important to the voters Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #60

I missed the circular firing squad? Damn, oh well I guess we'll just have to let the primary play Autumn Apr 2019 #43

the old.."don't let the perfect... stillcool Apr 2019 #44

If you seriously want to win pick Ryan or Biden ...someone who can win MI,WI,PA and maybe even Ohio. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #59

President Obama is speaking from experience.. Cha Apr 2019 #50

I can tell you what is going to happen and even then it wont matter. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #101

Seems to be a lot of deadly, Dem fire in that circular firing squad. empedocles Apr 2019 #58

As he takes aim at Progressives and pulls the trigger. dogman Apr 2019 #65

Yeah workinclasszero Apr 2019 #83

When Obama first ran in 2008 depending where he was campaigning at INdemo Apr 2019 #74

I mean that is a skill to get voters. Apple Fritter Apr 2019 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Apr 2019 #80

I have no idea what this post even means. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Apr 2019 #92

Wise words. ucrdem Apr 2019 #82

People wanting... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #86

"you start shooting at your allies because one of them has strayed Hortensis Apr 2019 #87

Its over, we wont learn. People are dug in, acting stupid Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #103

:) Nothing's forever. You know, Hortensis Apr 2019 #111

Obama's message seems to be hitting some nerves. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #89

Some candidates hire people to be the shooters in the circular firing squad. Politicub Apr 2019 #96

Obama will have many speeches & answer press Qs- pay attention to what he says. Sunlei Apr 2019 #97

What about Centrist Purists? progressoid Apr 2019 #107

No such thing. You also have to consider independents. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #117

? progressoid Apr 2019 #120

Que Mick..... paleotn Apr 2019 #108

And, may I ask, who is warning the status quo, corporate centrist Dems that their stance Magoo48 Apr 2019 #109

Nobody of course workinclasszero Apr 2019 #118

There's a difference between purity tests and concern about things that have been going in the KPN Apr 2019 #110

No it won't, its called a primary. BeckyDem Apr 2019 #132

and as always, the usual suspects are losing their shit over being called out Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #136

I miss having a real POTUS Gothmog Apr 2019 #141

THANK YOU walterhpdx Dec 2019 #142