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63. Hard to say what will happen in VA

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:33 PM

Feb 2020

I used to live there, and I think Bernie could have trouble, but I am actually concerned about the state for all of the Democrats, because Democrats took over the state legislature in 2019 and have been passing a ton of progressive legislation really fast, which is great, but I'm concerned they are overreaching and forgetting how red the state used to be in the recent past. This could hurt any Democrat running for president, but probably Bernie and Warren more than the others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie cannot win FL in the general, and that means if he loses ANY of the following he loses it all [View all] Celerity Feb 2020 OP

Trump will win Virginia if Bernie is the nominee. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #1

then that's the whole show, we lose, & will also probably come close to or outright lose the House Celerity Feb 2020 #4

Yep. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #25

Voters need to wakeup. democratisphere Feb 2020 #2

And we're bound n determined JackInGreen Feb 2020 #3

Reality Freddie Feb 2020 #32

I say MFM008 Feb 2020 #5

Still early in the race empedocles Feb 2020 #10

my calculations show a worst case scenario of Bernie only winning 10 states, DC included Celerity Feb 2020 #15

Horrifying. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #19

WA could fall as well, but looking at the 2016 percentages and current Trump numbers, I put it Blue Celerity Feb 2020 #21

By my calculations: Looks like a bad acid trip to me. n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #23

not at all, that was the WORST case scenario, here is what I think, as of today, will be the actual Celerity Feb 2020 #33

I hate to say it but I think that's an optimistic projection BilltheCat Feb 2020 #77

Oregon would be more likely to defect than WA, and I cannot see, even with Bernie, MD going down Celerity Feb 2020 #80

Mostly agree BilltheCat Feb 2020 #83

actually (and unfortunately IMHO) Berne is the clear second place choice with my fellow black voters Celerity Feb 2020 #84

respectfully disagree BilltheCat Feb 2020 #86

exit and entrance polls also show you to be wrong, and you are positing one tiny anecdotal piece Celerity Feb 2020 #87

hmmmm BilltheCat Feb 2020 #88

I think Sanders will be a general election disaster, and quite possible will cost us the House as Celerity Feb 2020 #89

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Magoo48 Feb 2020 #6

it is not 'sky is falling' at all it is basic maths nt Celerity Feb 2020 #16

It really is "Sky is falling" Lordquinton Feb 2020 #73

sorry, but that is a very weak rebuttal, and the maths are the maths, I did not manipulate the EC Celerity Feb 2020 #75

I will be interested in how you will feel in, say, mid-November. Let's revisit this then. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #26

to a lot of us nearing retirement it is a VERY big deal I can assure you BilltheCat Feb 2020 #78

After next Tuesday TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #7

Bernie can not win. America will never elect a Socialist as President. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #8

Agree, Jackie. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #13

I agree. People can delude themselves, but that won't change the electoral college. By the way, still_one Feb 2020 #79

Delude. Excellent word. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #82

Much more useful degree, as long as one is aware still_one Feb 2020 #85

A centrist lost Florida in 2016 Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #9

What's a "centrist"? Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #11

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #12

I think there's only a few Dems that would fit that moniker Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #14

That's because there aren't many others. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #47

Thanks Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #64

those On The Issues graphs are (to steal a phrase from a Texas bloke I went to LSE with) as useless Celerity Feb 2020 #70

If you aren't a Berner... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #27

And downballot races all over the country RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #17

the point is the simple maths, if we lose FL & any ONE of those 18 possibilities, we lose the POTUS Celerity Feb 2020 #18

Voltaire, yes, losing Florida is always a possibility. FM123 Feb 2020 #22

It's one thing for it to be a possibility... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #28

And a Sanders-endorsed progressive candidate (Gillum) lost Florida in 2018... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #24

Sadly Fla is a red state mitch96 Feb 2020 #42

The odds of flipping AZ and/or GA are NOT "Very very low" with Sanders Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #20

There won;t be a blue wave under the Sanders banner. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #29

Actually it's built upon enthusiastic support from tens of millions to an ideal Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #34

OKay a couple retorts to this comedy piece.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #39

I'll be more polite in responding to you Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #43

They are quite low. honest.abe Feb 2020 #35

Using that for a discussion point: AZ is clearly in play Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #36

If you want to focus on flipping AZ then Biden is your man. honest.abe Feb 2020 #38

Democrats are delivering the elections of 2020 and beyond to Republicans on a silver platter dalton99a Feb 2020 #30

Wow, you can predict that? Amazing! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #31

it was very easy, just move FL to Red again, and then go to all the states that would tip Rump Celerity Feb 2020 #37

Colorado is blue enough now that it will never go Trump Jake Stern Feb 2020 #52

CO staying Blue barely relives the systemic risk when we lose FL w/ Bernie at the top of the ticket Celerity Feb 2020 #54

As I recall, Trump won Florida the last time around? kentuck Feb 2020 #40

He's not going to lose OR, and could flip AZ and possibly others Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #41

extraordinarily small chance Sanders flips AZ, Biden himself would have a hell of time doing it Celerity Feb 2020 #44

OTOH, in Florida, Sanders polls better than any of our other candidates except Biden... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #45

TX or OH with Bernie as the nominee is so not going to happen. This is the stuff of fantasy. Celerity Feb 2020 #46

I agree, not likely, but not outside the realm of possibility thesquanderer Feb 2020 #48

massive dice rolls, all Celerity Feb 2020 #51

Yes. I would not put money on winning Ohio, Florida, or Texas. With ANY of our candidates. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #57

WI's looking grim for whoever we nominate and PA is starting to do the same. FL is toast with Bernie Celerity Feb 2020 #59

Bs isn't gonna win Ohio. Alliepoo Feb 2020 #50

Bernie would need Sherrod Brown squirecam Feb 2020 #68

I think Florida is a long shot for any Democrat democrattotheend Feb 2020 #49

I put in every possible combination of loss given the other postulations, obviously some Celerity Feb 2020 #53

I think Bernie will do as well as any Dem in WI, MN, NH and NV democrattotheend Feb 2020 #56

If PA or MI or both stay Red, we lose the POTUS then, Bernie is going to get CRUSHED in FL Celerity Feb 2020 #58

On the flip side, if we get PA, MI and WI back, we don't need Florida democrattotheend Feb 2020 #60

I can see Bernie, IF (and it is massive IF) he wins WI, MI, PA (all three are so so dicey atm) Celerity Feb 2020 #62

Hard to say what will happen in VA democrattotheend Feb 2020 #63

BS Any of the Democratic tickets can win rockfordfile Feb 2020 #66

I didn't say they couldn't democrattotheend Feb 2020 #67

I'm from western PA and ebbie15644 Feb 2020 #55

WI and PA and MI and MN and NV+NH as pair & singular are all in massive risk with Sanders at the top Celerity Feb 2020 #61

✨✨✨✨SANDERS 3 MONTH SWING STATE NUMBERS AGAINST TRUMP SUCK !!!✨✨✨✨ uponit7771 Feb 2020 #65

Connecticut? melman Feb 2020 #69

covering all remotely possibly bases melman nt Celerity Feb 2020 #72

And I'm telling you as someone who's spent most of my life in CT melman Feb 2020 #81

it is the least likely of those I listed, but I did post in the OP why I added it as a possibility Celerity Feb 2020 #90

K Cha Feb 2020 #71

Based on... Lordquinton Feb 2020 #74

Terrifying BilltheCat Feb 2020 #76