Democratic Primaries

JudyM

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16. "The best way for Trump to win is through defeatism metastasizing into an actual defeat."

Reply to Fiendish Thingy (Original post)

Tue Feb 25, 2020, 05:10 PM

Feb 2020

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2020, 07:18 PM - Edit history (1)

“...Defeatism leads to reduced energy which will lead to a second Trump term.”

Hopefully the handwringing here will start to fade, better sooner than later. If it’s going to be Sanders, the best Dems can do to win, according to this research, is to show vibrant enthusiasm.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Can Bernie win? Absolutely! [View all] Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 OP

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I ran your post through Google translate and Babelfish and they both said Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #5

25% up in Nevada, so here's a raspberry for you floppyboo Feb 2020 #4

Of course he can .. in a landslide! ananda Feb 2020 #3

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and Kevin McCarthy will be Speaker Gothmog Feb 2020 #19

No evidence to support that assertion, only fear nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #31

Research reveals that Sen. Sanders's electability is based on a polling mirage. Gothmog Feb 2020 #33

Count out Florida redstateblues Feb 2020 #6

Not according to 3 month swing state numbers vs Trump, this is like McGovern we're being warned & uponit7771 Feb 2020 #7

If Bernie gets more votes than any other candidate then he should be the nominee - same for walkingman Feb 2020 #8

Yes, those are the rules that doesn't mean he has the best chance at winning. Sanders can win uponit7771 Feb 2020 #9

Bitecofer's model says ANY of our top candidates can win, if anti-Trump turnout is high nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #11

That's a big variable vs what we already know; Sanders numbers against Trump in the swings states uponit7771 Feb 2020 #13

Not in the polling data I've seen. Bernie's numbers have been going up in Meadowoak Feb 2020 #20

There are no polling avg outside of Mi Show Sanders beating Trump outside MOE for last 3 months uponit7771 Feb 2020 #21

So what is your solution? I like Bernie but definitely do not what another 4 years of Trump. walkingman Feb 2020 #23

Since America hasn't had a democratically elected republican president in the last 20 years ... uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24

Research reveals that Sen. Sanders's electability is based on a polling mirage. Gothmog Feb 2020 #18

Just read the paper, this doesn't seem like reliable science: assumptions about, e.g., rethugs JudyM Feb 2020 #30

The mirage is the myth of the "swing voter" nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #32

You really think Sanders would lose 48 states? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #10

No, he'd lose 3 of the 4 big swing states according to 3 month swing state polls vs Trump. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #12

Post your data Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #14

Link, this is from NBC latest poll that backs up the 3 month average against Trump uponit7771 Feb 2020 #15

"The best way for Trump to win is through defeatism metastasizing into an actual defeat." JudyM Feb 2020 #16

This is currently what concerns me most Sympthsical Feb 2020 #28

I will, too. And quickly shift gears to support the nominee. Even if it's a quasi-republican. JudyM Feb 2020 #29

It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #34

Yep n/t Sympthsical Feb 2020 #35

"New research suggests Sanders would drive swing voters to Trump -- and need a youth turnout miracle Gothmog Feb 2020 #17

Was just going to post that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #22

here is the problem with that article- voter turn out 18 to 29 y.o. has increased 79% since 2014. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #26

But turnout so far has been tepid frazzled Feb 2020 #25

It's the incumbents race to lose zipplewrath Feb 2020 #27

Fun fact: As late as OCTOBER 2016 Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #36

Did you read the rest of my post and the linked article? Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #37