Democratic Primaries

zentrum

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100. Our family pays more in

Sun Apr 7, 2019, 12:12 PM

Apr 2019

....insurance premiums every year than we ever do for our actual health care. It's nuts.

I'd rather we all paid no insurance premiums or co-pays at all and used that money to instead pay the "higher taxes" that would allow the entire country to be healthier. I think the so-called "higher taxes" come out to less than we now pay in insurance bills under the ACA.

Medicare for all is cheaper than the ACA and still allows you to see your favorite doctor. You can also still buy additional private insurance if you can afford it.

How can anyone defend the fact that America pays more for health care than any other industrialized country and also has lower health rates? That's what insurance-company health care has brought us. Family bankruptcy and less health.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Barack Obama Warns Progressive Purists That Their 'Circular Firing Squad' Will Only Help Trump [View all] babylonsister Apr 2019 OP

"...and that by definition means you're not going to get 100 percent of what you want." NurseJackie Apr 2019 #1

The ACA could be improved upon, it's pretty obvious. Agschmid Apr 2019 #3

It was a huge giveaway to the insurance companies in the end madville Apr 2019 #5

You are right! at140 Apr 2019 #8

You didn't hear what Obama said I take it. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #34

I am guessing more people like "private" insurance at140 Apr 2019 #42

"But this is not a contest in popularity." Steven Maurer Apr 2019 #84

I am fortunate to have good private insurance too. marylandblue Apr 2019 #123

You are correct on many counts...nt at140 Apr 2019 #124

Millions of people have health care. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #56

Millions were also forced to buy overpriced health insurance madville Apr 2019 #61

You don't get it wecwon 18 because of the ACA. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #63

Our family pays more in zentrum Apr 2019 #100

Our family pays less than Medicare for all. And blame Trump when 100,000 Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #112

Excellent point! Why we need single-payer healthcare for all! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #126

Yup. zentrum Apr 2019 #98

The ACA True Blue American Apr 2019 #4

Might need a helmet as well at140 Apr 2019 #9

People seem to forget this mcar Apr 2019 #27

Bingo! nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #33

i haven't forgetten.. and I wonder who Cha Apr 2019 #47

Let's hope they learned from 2016 mcar Apr 2019 #69

Yeah, I hope at Cha Apr 2019 #71

Has to mcar Apr 2019 #75

Purist malcontents who stayed home, ended up with zero. oasis Apr 2019 #68

They weren't a factor in 2018 mcar Apr 2019 #70

Got an stats to prove that? progressoid Apr 2019 #106

We could have just passed a less shitty law in the first place. MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #128

Oh good grief. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #129

No, we coudn't. sfwriter Apr 2019 #130

We were sold "Yes we can," not "No, we can't." MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #133

I agree, "Yes We Can" will work better. MasonDreams Apr 2019 #138

K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #2

Amen to that. That stupid litmus test will be the end of us and the beginning of tyranny. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #6

Yes Sir: That's How We Got The Orange Buffoon. Thanks To Susan Sarandon and Her Ilk DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #7

No Sir Ferrets are Cool Apr 2019 #76

There was a healthy dose of Russian propaganda pushed from the Jill Stein surrogates. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #88

And the Russian princess Stein. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #113

I think we need an Armed Forces member or Veteran MasonDreams Apr 2019 #139

I'm glad HE said it. Say it here & you get criticized. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #10

My, my. His hair is so grey now! charlyvi Apr 2019 #11

Unwelcome advice Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #12

That's the thing about "purity" no matter where you are on the political spectrum, everybody Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #14

Yup, the "purists" just have to realize they can't keep using the ACA as a litmus test... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35

Germany and Switzerland have mixed public/private insurance marylandblue Apr 2019 #45

Maybe... I think it's definitely worth debating and let the candidate with the best solution win! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #48

Yes, Yes both will work well, and together! MasonDreams Apr 2019 #140

indeed.. Locrian Apr 2019 #24

Yup. KPN Apr 2019 #90

People shold consider who can win. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #114

Absolutely- but not at the cost of good governance Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #119

Yeah well if we don't win than Trump will destroy this country. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #125

All the more reason to impeach Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #127

I would agree if we could convict. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #131

DU rec... SidDithers Apr 2019 #13

Tim Ryan talked today about how Russians infilterate True Blue American Apr 2019 #16

and canadians Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #104

But we're the smart ones. snort Apr 2019 #15

... shanny Apr 2019 #53

Obama is too cautious herel DallasNE Apr 2019 #17

The reason people didn't vote is because they didn't vote. No one else's fault. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #36

Bingo. fleabiscuit Apr 2019 #77

Exactly, wasupaloopa! Cha Apr 2019 #81

I agree.. whathehell Apr 2019 #55

There were no options McConnell was not going to give... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #57

I know, Dems.. but there are those who Cha Apr 2019 #73

Yeah and really some of these folks don't understand how message voting helps the GOP. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #115

There was no Way to get a vote on Garland Cha Apr 2019 #72

I think that would be 4500th one the list of why people didn't vote treestar Apr 2019 #93

We must live in alternate realities. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #134

Cute DallasNE Apr 2019 #137

He's going to have to help destroy Sanders mr_liberal Apr 2019 #18

Yes on the subject line BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #31

Wha? Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #38

Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #49

So that would be an example of how not to have a "circular firing squad"? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #105

He won't need to BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #135

this country is so far right that progressives seem like purists just for wanting what most rainy Apr 2019 #19

Amen! Doitnow Apr 2019 #22

Exactly Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #37

It is a center left country...and the mistake Some progressives make is thinking most Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #62

Well if that were true than the country would be left not right. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #116

Now if some of us would only listen to the wisest guy in any room he's in. marble falls Apr 2019 #20

An exemplary human being, no question shanny Apr 2019 #51

I believe anyone has the right to run for any office and the people should decide Doitnow Apr 2019 #21

That's true in a perfect democracy. defacto7 Apr 2019 #25

Up until the time we need to pull together to win. Running in spite of everyone wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #39

No one is disagreeing with the right to run and the people deciding. The post was about not c-rational Apr 2019 #41

The purists helped us lose in 2016 ... I'd say let's hope they've learned from their mistakes SFnomad Apr 2019 #23

He speaks from experience mcar Apr 2019 #26

Ha! that's what I said.. Cha Apr 2019 #52

Out of anyone he should know how it works in politics. FloridaBlues Apr 2019 #28

Bravo! Socal31 Apr 2019 #29

I miss him terribly. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #32

Yep. Inkfreak Apr 2019 #30

Dear Mr President Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #40

all of them... stillcool Apr 2019 #46

And how does one build a majority shanny Apr 2019 #54

how do you get... stillcool Apr 2019 #66

Codswollop. shanny Apr 2019 #78

I don't get ... stillcool Apr 2019 #91

Why are you deflecting to state governments? Do they enact laws on the national stage? shanny Apr 2019 #99

Amen doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #102

+1 shanny Apr 2019 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author stillcool Apr 2019 #121

Look at the EC and the Senate treestar Apr 2019 #94

You know we win when we turn out shanny Apr 2019 #95

well that ought to get people excited about voting Lazy Daisy Apr 2019 #64

use it or lose it... stillcool Apr 2019 #67

You don't give up policies . You choose the one that are most important to the voters Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #60

I missed the circular firing squad? Damn, oh well I guess we'll just have to let the primary play Autumn Apr 2019 #43

the old.."don't let the perfect... stillcool Apr 2019 #44

If you seriously want to win pick Ryan or Biden ...someone who can win MI,WI,PA and maybe even Ohio. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #59

President Obama is speaking from experience.. Cha Apr 2019 #50

I can tell you what is going to happen and even then it wont matter. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #101

Seems to be a lot of deadly, Dem fire in that circular firing squad. empedocles Apr 2019 #58

As he takes aim at Progressives and pulls the trigger. dogman Apr 2019 #65

Yeah workinclasszero Apr 2019 #83

When Obama first ran in 2008 depending where he was campaigning at INdemo Apr 2019 #74

I mean that is a skill to get voters. Apple Fritter Apr 2019 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Apr 2019 #80

I have no idea what this post even means. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Apr 2019 #92

Wise words. ucrdem Apr 2019 #82

People wanting... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #86

"you start shooting at your allies because one of them has strayed Hortensis Apr 2019 #87

Its over, we wont learn. People are dug in, acting stupid Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #103

:) Nothing's forever. You know, Hortensis Apr 2019 #111

Obama's message seems to be hitting some nerves. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #89

Some candidates hire people to be the shooters in the circular firing squad. Politicub Apr 2019 #96

Obama will have many speeches & answer press Qs- pay attention to what he says. Sunlei Apr 2019 #97

What about Centrist Purists? progressoid Apr 2019 #107

No such thing. You also have to consider independents. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #117

? progressoid Apr 2019 #120

Que Mick..... paleotn Apr 2019 #108

And, may I ask, who is warning the status quo, corporate centrist Dems that their stance Magoo48 Apr 2019 #109

Nobody of course workinclasszero Apr 2019 #118

There's a difference between purity tests and concern about things that have been going in the KPN Apr 2019 #110

No it won't, its called a primary. BeckyDem Apr 2019 #132

and as always, the usual suspects are losing their shit over being called out Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #136

I miss having a real POTUS Gothmog Apr 2019 #141

THANK YOU walterhpdx Dec 2019 #142