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melman

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81. And I'm telling you as someone who's spent most of my life in CT

Reply to Celerity (Reply #72)

Wed Feb 26, 2020, 07:42 PM

Feb 2020

That it isn't possible. Even remotely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie cannot win FL in the general, and that means if he loses ANY of the following he loses it all [View all] Celerity Feb 2020 OP

Trump will win Virginia if Bernie is the nominee. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #1

then that's the whole show, we lose, & will also probably come close to or outright lose the House Celerity Feb 2020 #4

Yep. nt LexVegas Feb 2020 #25

Voters need to wakeup. democratisphere Feb 2020 #2

And we're bound n determined JackInGreen Feb 2020 #3

Reality Freddie Feb 2020 #32

I say MFM008 Feb 2020 #5

Still early in the race empedocles Feb 2020 #10

my calculations show a worst case scenario of Bernie only winning 10 states, DC included Celerity Feb 2020 #15

Horrifying. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #19

WA could fall as well, but looking at the 2016 percentages and current Trump numbers, I put it Blue Celerity Feb 2020 #21

By my calculations: Looks like a bad acid trip to me. n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #23

not at all, that was the WORST case scenario, here is what I think, as of today, will be the actual Celerity Feb 2020 #33

I hate to say it but I think that's an optimistic projection BilltheCat Feb 2020 #77

Oregon would be more likely to defect than WA, and I cannot see, even with Bernie, MD going down Celerity Feb 2020 #80

Mostly agree BilltheCat Feb 2020 #83

actually (and unfortunately IMHO) Berne is the clear second place choice with my fellow black voters Celerity Feb 2020 #84

respectfully disagree BilltheCat Feb 2020 #86

exit and entrance polls also show you to be wrong, and you are positing one tiny anecdotal piece Celerity Feb 2020 #87

hmmmm BilltheCat Feb 2020 #88

I think Sanders will be a general election disaster, and quite possible will cost us the House as Celerity Feb 2020 #89

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Magoo48 Feb 2020 #6

it is not 'sky is falling' at all it is basic maths nt Celerity Feb 2020 #16

It really is "Sky is falling" Lordquinton Feb 2020 #73

sorry, but that is a very weak rebuttal, and the maths are the maths, I did not manipulate the EC Celerity Feb 2020 #75

I will be interested in how you will feel in, say, mid-November. Let's revisit this then. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #26

to a lot of us nearing retirement it is a VERY big deal I can assure you BilltheCat Feb 2020 #78

After next Tuesday TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #7

Bernie can not win. America will never elect a Socialist as President. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #8

Agree, Jackie. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #13

I agree. People can delude themselves, but that won't change the electoral college. By the way, still_one Feb 2020 #79

Delude. Excellent word. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #82

Much more useful degree, as long as one is aware still_one Feb 2020 #85

A centrist lost Florida in 2016 Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #9

What's a "centrist"? Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #11

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #12

I think there's only a few Dems that would fit that moniker Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #14

That's because there aren't many others. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #47

Thanks Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #64

those On The Issues graphs are (to steal a phrase from a Texas bloke I went to LSE with) as useless Celerity Feb 2020 #70

If you aren't a Berner... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #27

And downballot races all over the country RandiFan1290 Feb 2020 #17

the point is the simple maths, if we lose FL & any ONE of those 18 possibilities, we lose the POTUS Celerity Feb 2020 #18

Voltaire, yes, losing Florida is always a possibility. FM123 Feb 2020 #22

It's one thing for it to be a possibility... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #28

And a Sanders-endorsed progressive candidate (Gillum) lost Florida in 2018... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #24

Sadly Fla is a red state mitch96 Feb 2020 #42

The odds of flipping AZ and/or GA are NOT "Very very low" with Sanders Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #20

There won;t be a blue wave under the Sanders banner. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #29

Actually it's built upon enthusiastic support from tens of millions to an ideal Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #34

OKay a couple retorts to this comedy piece.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #39

I'll be more polite in responding to you Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #43

They are quite low. honest.abe Feb 2020 #35

Using that for a discussion point: AZ is clearly in play Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #36

If you want to focus on flipping AZ then Biden is your man. honest.abe Feb 2020 #38

Democrats are delivering the elections of 2020 and beyond to Republicans on a silver platter dalton99a Feb 2020 #30

Wow, you can predict that? Amazing! Nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #31

it was very easy, just move FL to Red again, and then go to all the states that would tip Rump Celerity Feb 2020 #37

Colorado is blue enough now that it will never go Trump Jake Stern Feb 2020 #52

CO staying Blue barely relives the systemic risk when we lose FL w/ Bernie at the top of the ticket Celerity Feb 2020 #54

As I recall, Trump won Florida the last time around? kentuck Feb 2020 #40

He's not going to lose OR, and could flip AZ and possibly others Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #41

extraordinarily small chance Sanders flips AZ, Biden himself would have a hell of time doing it Celerity Feb 2020 #44

OTOH, in Florida, Sanders polls better than any of our other candidates except Biden... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #45

TX or OH with Bernie as the nominee is so not going to happen. This is the stuff of fantasy. Celerity Feb 2020 #46

I agree, not likely, but not outside the realm of possibility thesquanderer Feb 2020 #48

massive dice rolls, all Celerity Feb 2020 #51

Yes. I would not put money on winning Ohio, Florida, or Texas. With ANY of our candidates. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #57

WI's looking grim for whoever we nominate and PA is starting to do the same. FL is toast with Bernie Celerity Feb 2020 #59

Bs isn't gonna win Ohio. Alliepoo Feb 2020 #50

Bernie would need Sherrod Brown squirecam Feb 2020 #68

I think Florida is a long shot for any Democrat democrattotheend Feb 2020 #49

I put in every possible combination of loss given the other postulations, obviously some Celerity Feb 2020 #53

I think Bernie will do as well as any Dem in WI, MN, NH and NV democrattotheend Feb 2020 #56

If PA or MI or both stay Red, we lose the POTUS then, Bernie is going to get CRUSHED in FL Celerity Feb 2020 #58

On the flip side, if we get PA, MI and WI back, we don't need Florida democrattotheend Feb 2020 #60

I can see Bernie, IF (and it is massive IF) he wins WI, MI, PA (all three are so so dicey atm) Celerity Feb 2020 #62

Hard to say what will happen in VA democrattotheend Feb 2020 #63

BS Any of the Democratic tickets can win rockfordfile Feb 2020 #66

I didn't say they couldn't democrattotheend Feb 2020 #67

I'm from western PA and ebbie15644 Feb 2020 #55

WI and PA and MI and MN and NV+NH as pair & singular are all in massive risk with Sanders at the top Celerity Feb 2020 #61

✨✨✨✨SANDERS 3 MONTH SWING STATE NUMBERS AGAINST TRUMP SUCK !!!✨✨✨✨ uponit7771 Feb 2020 #65

Connecticut? melman Feb 2020 #69

covering all remotely possibly bases melman nt Celerity Feb 2020 #72

And I'm telling you as someone who's spent most of my life in CT melman Feb 2020 #81

it is the least likely of those I listed, but I did post in the OP why I added it as a possibility Celerity Feb 2020 #90

K Cha Feb 2020 #71

Based on... Lordquinton Feb 2020 #74

Terrifying BilltheCat Feb 2020 #76