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13. Considering That Members Of Congress & THe Senate Are Delegates

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:19 AM

Feb 2020

I find there is more true representation than caucuses where a small number of voters are given such a big voice.

“It’s a relatively small number, right? It’s the size of a sort of medium-sized town,” said David Redlawsk, a political science professor at the University of Delaware and an expert on the Iowa caucuses. “In congressional elections, winners normally have more than 100,000 votes.

We still don’t know what the 2020 turnout will be, but ultimately, a small sliver of Iowa’s population participates in the caucuses. About 171,000 Democratic caucus-goers participated in 2016, just 15.7 percent of the overall population. That’s about a quarter of the population of Washington, DC. When it’s over, millions of campaign dollars and hours spent campaigning in Iowa will all be spent to win the hearts of a small number of American voters.”

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/13/20953263/what-it-takes-to-win-iowa-caucuses-explained

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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FFS! I am tired of reading this S*** [View all] sheshe2 Feb 2020 OP

The voters should elect the nominee. Not party insiders. It's not complicated. DanTex Feb 2020 #1

The majority of voters WILL elect the nominee blm Feb 2020 #4

Well, I sure hope so. Because if the superdelegates choose someone who didn't get the most votes, DanTex Feb 2020 #5

Majority. Not plurality. blm Feb 2020 #8

And, if there is no majority, then whoever gets the most votes. DanTex Feb 2020 #12

Funny how that has changed over time. George II Feb 2020 #28

CNN just had a segment on just that! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #107

No. If 70% vote for someone else, then how does the guy with a 30% share get all the marbles. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #40

30% is not the problem level, it is when you are talking 40% and especially higher Celerity Feb 2020 #47

Quite reasonable. Thank you. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #70

re: "then how does the guy with a 30% share get all the marbles." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #71

They won't give it to the person with 25% sweetloukillbot Feb 2020 #86

re: "the person who has 50%+1 on the second round gets it" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #88

No, no, and no again relayerbob Feb 2020 #49

Hear, hear! ehrnst Feb 2020 #131

Majority: dchill Feb 2020 #53

It certainly hasn't been obvious to everyone... ehrnst Feb 2020 #62

Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary IMO. DanTex Feb 2020 #63

Not really Tweedy Feb 2020 #94

I read here today that all Super Delagates... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #9

super delegates are simpley unpledged delegates yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #48

THX. It's an important read.It also says supers only compromise 15% of DNC delegates. Here's more: ancianita Feb 2020 #78

re: "I read here today that all Super Delagates...are Corporate Lobbyist's." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #83

Oh trust me, I don't believe it. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #108

There's no reason for them to help a nominee 60 or 70% of D's dislike. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #10

There is no such candidate in the field. DanTex Feb 2020 #14

And most of them prefer someone else. He's never broken 34% in raw vote totals. n/t pnwmom Feb 2020 #18

So? MisterFred Feb 2020 #20

Most of them prefer Bernie to any other candidate. DanTex Feb 2020 #21

most of them prefer someone other than bernie. mopinko Feb 2020 #26

This. MontanaMama Feb 2020 #22

Just because a candidate has a high approval rating TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #29

OK, but in this case, the voters do think that Bernie is the best candidate for the job. DanTex Feb 2020 #33

In two and a half states. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #36

I think we should listen to Bernie 1.0, the 2016 version. pnwmom Feb 2020 #99

+1000 Tweedy Feb 2020 #106

It is late and I am exhausted. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #39

Ok, but polling shows that 65% of D's LIKE Sanders (even though he may not be their first choice) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #75

Where do you get that? Your second link says 44% would be "very uncomfortable" with Bernie pnwmom Feb 2020 #133

You looked at the wrong page thesquanderer Feb 2020 #135

You mean like they have been pressured to do before? ehrnst Feb 2020 #57

Super Delegates are not "party insiders". Jimmy Carter is a "party insider"? George II Feb 2020 #7

Considering That Members Of Congress & THe Senate Are Delegates Me. Feb 2020 #13

Nina Turner is a superdelegate. lapucelle Feb 2020 #128

It Just Keeps Getting Bettter And Better Me. Feb 2020 #136

"Party insiders" TwilightZone Feb 2020 #16

Party insiders, yes. I gotta be honest, I do not understand the aversion to letting voters decide. DanTex Feb 2020 #17

Donald Trump is a perfect example radical noodle Feb 2020 #30

Donald Trump is a monster Mad cow Feb 2020 #56

I don't think we can count on the Russians helping us radical noodle Feb 2020 #92

it is not an aversion to letting voters decide. We have already voted in our primaries yellowdogintexas Feb 2020 #50

"Sanders Campaign Now Embraces Superdelegates As Key To Nomination" ehrnst Feb 2020 #58

Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary IMO. DanTex Feb 2020 #59

The voters decided to elect most of the super delegates MineralMan Feb 2020 #93

If a candidate fails to when a majority Tweedy Feb 2020 #109

As Sen. Warren pointed out, Sen. Sanders was spooky3 Feb 2020 #19

That's completely incorrect. DanTex Feb 2020 #23

You are incorrect. Look up the video that someone posted spooky3 Feb 2020 #24

LOL at the Jennifer Rubin article. You know she's a Republican, right? DanTex Feb 2020 #25

How many times do people have to tell you and others that spooky3 Feb 2020 #27

She is a *Republican*. She likes Republican things like tax cuts for rich people DanTex Feb 2020 #32

The goalpost move didn't work so now, a sad, despearate attempt at an ad hominem. ehrnst Feb 2020 #61

CNN just had a WHOLE segment on just that, including a video. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #110

Nice try at a goalpost move... we're talking about the Sanders campaign. Not their supporters. ehrnst Feb 2020 #60

+1 FACTS!!! Ouch, my eyes! :-) spooky3 Feb 2020 #98

I know. Not that it sinks in, but I know that others reading are ehrnst Feb 2020 #101

Yes! spooky3 Feb 2020 #102

Actually, the DNC rules say specifically that only DELEGATES elect the nominee. AGeddy Feb 2020 #34

And the delegates should respect the electorate, and nominate whoever gets the most votes. DanTex Feb 2020 #35

On the first vote, all pledges delegates ARE required to respect the electorate that voted for them AGeddy Feb 2020 #37

"The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is ehrnst Feb 2020 #64

Best not to re-litigate the 2016 primary IMO. DanTex Feb 2020 #65

Nice try. Not re-litigating, reviewing. By your definition it's 'relitigating' to point out that HRC ehrnst Feb 2020 #66

2016 was a different circumstance, things happened, best to not re-litigate and move forward instead DanTex Feb 2020 #73

It's the double standards and hypocrisy, which we know R B Garr Feb 2020 #84

Getting desperate, Dan... Same candidate, 180 on their statements on the role of superdelegates. ehrnst Feb 2020 #89

Nobody's "re-litigating" the 2016 primary. MineralMan Feb 2020 #96

Oh, okay. Do you object to your candidate being a super delegate? Or only the... Hekate Feb 2020 #42

Is it not working out for him? peggysue2 Feb 2020 #55

I object to all superdelegates. DanTex Feb 2020 #82

Why don't you answer the question instead of trying to deflect.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #100

Hoping for five. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #80

Exactly Me. Feb 2020 #2

That is correct Me. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #11

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #3

Add to the Railing Against Himself list: establishment, elite, millionaires. betsuni Feb 2020 #6

That fits. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #31

Brilliant! Cha Feb 2020 #41

Holy cow! Unhinged reaction!! Take a breath! Follow calm Mayor Pete! Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #15

Excuse me? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #38

Maybe the poster meant BS is behaving unhinged? Hekate Feb 2020 #43

Perhaps. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #45

And, it's only our Democracy, Country, and oh yeah.. Our Planet Cha Feb 2020 #54

Yes. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #111

You're Welcome, she.. Cha Feb 2020 #114

Ironic... ehrnst Feb 2020 #67

Yup..been thrown at me multiple times. Ironic is right. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #68

Calling someone else "Unhinged?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #69

Nope. Post unhinged. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #72

Response was a bit unhinged. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #74

Yup Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #76

;) sheshe2 Feb 2020 #112

Posts don't write themselves, Hon. ehrnst Feb 2020 #91

Now you finally got it!! Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #95

Now when will you? ehrnst Feb 2020 #105

... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #113

Already have. Bullies can't take their own medicine. Don't you agree? Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #124

You tell us... ehrnst Feb 2020 #125

Ha...know you've won an argument when people pull Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #129

Got nothing? ehrnst Feb 2020 #130

smh.. Cha Feb 2020 #104

De verdad. Cha Feb 2020 #103

Antipathy to candidates is registered with a yawn Warpy Feb 2020 #44

... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #115

Diversions to avoid comparisons on issues. rwsanders Feb 2020 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author James48 Feb 2020 #51

Don't worry my dear shshe William769 Feb 2020 #52

As do I, Bill. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #116

I don't get to vote till March 17th. William769 Feb 2020 #118

Really, it's just one guy honing his ability to be obtuse in the face of overwhelming evidence. Squinch Feb 2020 #77

Nobody wins elections by whining about unfairness Walleye Feb 2020 #79

FFS, Sanders has nothing against Super Delegates as individual people, thesquanderer Feb 2020 #81

Whatever. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #117

In all fairness, he never liked them. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #120

Well. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #121

That's true as well. He didn't like the idea of SD at all, but since that was the system, thesquanderer Feb 2020 #122

Yes, he's certainly gone back and forth on the topic. ehrnst Feb 2020 #127

Amen, she. This ish is tiresome. R B Garr Feb 2020 #85

I know I know.. you just cant make it up Peacetrain Feb 2020 #87

Once again, you are absolutely correct. MineralMan Feb 2020 #90

+1000 sheshe2 Feb 2020 #119

I think one solution would be this: The Mouth Feb 2020 #97

BS is full of BS. we can do it Feb 2020 #123

BS is a superdelegate. He hired superdelegate Nina Turner to run his campaign. lapucelle Feb 2020 #126

+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #132

Yes and he opposes having superdelegates vote. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #134