Democratic Primaries

DownriverDem

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9. Sorry

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 10:37 AM

Feb 2020

you are politically naive. Who will be voting in November? Center/Left Americans. They do not support Bernie. Your comment shows a disconnect,

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I believe that whoever gets the most votes will be the nominee. [View all] redgreenandblue Feb 2020 OP

66% of Democrats oppose Bernie bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #1

Not even close. DanTex Feb 2020 #4

Socialist. No other characteristic seems to have such a strong negative effect on electability. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #7

"New Yahoo News/YouGov poll shows Sanders's strength going head-to-head with rivals" DanTex Feb 2020 #8

And yet most of us still don't want him. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #12

Depends who you mean by "us". Democratic voters prefer Bernie to anyone else. DanTex Feb 2020 #34

No. It just means that the votes of those who don't want him are split between other candidates. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #37

Again, depends on who "us" is. Polls show that Bernie is the candidate that the most Dems DanTex Feb 2020 #38

Quit fucking insinuating I'm not a Democrat. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #39

Ten bucks says you dramatically fail to see the irony of your invocation of data into a sentence. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #41

You don't provide any data to support your claim. Got any? ehrnst Feb 2020 #48

If that were true, then Bernie would have a majority of delegates MineralMan Feb 2020 #46

Sorry DownriverDem Feb 2020 #9

Polls show Bernie beating Trump. Sorry, but it's true. DanTex Feb 2020 #10

Polls show other Dem candidates are beating Trump... ehrnst Feb 2020 #57

True. Could be closer to 70% aeromanKC Feb 2020 #33

Our nominee will be the person that gets the most votes at the convention. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #2

Yup. And that person will have won the popular vote in the primaries or Trump remains president. nt redgreenandblue Feb 2020 #3

Who doesn't plan to "vote blue no matter who" then? W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #6

Calling voters "childish" is an extremely poor voter outreach strategy. DanTex Feb 2020 #11

You can't win over the indoctrinated. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #26

Calling voters "indoctrinated" is also a poor voter outreach strategy. DanTex Feb 2020 #27

It's a lot nicer than what Sanders supporters have been calling anyone they haven't indoctrinated. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #30

Petulant, self-righteous lectures are also a poor voter outreach strategy. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #43

As is a simplistic prophecy and calling it "polling data" LanternWaste Feb 2020 #42

You know what else is extremely poor voter outreach strategy? ehrnst Feb 2020 #55

"Vote for Bernie or else." HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #47

Exactly. Either this, or we get Trump again, and nobody wants Trump. DanTex Feb 2020 #5

If Bernie wins the nomination with just 35% of the vote showblue22 Feb 2020 #13

No rules changes. The superdelegates just need to respect the will of the electorate. DanTex Feb 2020 #14

The superdelegates not being able to vote as the wish is a rules change. showblue22 Feb 2020 #15

The superdelegates can vote as they wish, the question is how do they wish to vote. DanTex Feb 2020 #16

Ummm boston bean Feb 2020 #17

There is no winner until all votes are counted including superdelegates. showblue22 Feb 2020 #18

Correct. And if the superdelegates don't respect the will of the voters, then the party fractures, DanTex Feb 2020 #19

If Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Klobuchar pledge to Biden for example boston bean Feb 2020 #20

The delegates get to vote at the convention, not the candidates. DanTex Feb 2020 #21

Right. And if they go to Biden ias in my example boston bean Feb 2020 #23

Yes, and that would fracture the party. Because people can bang away all they want on twitter. DanTex Feb 2020 #25

"But at the end of the day, if the candidate with the most pledged delegates doesn't get the nom... ehrnst Feb 2020 #52

The will of the voters is not with someone with 35% of the vote. showblue22 Feb 2020 #22

If that's more than anyone else, then yes, it is. DanTex Feb 2020 #24

Delegates at the convention represent voters. showblue22 Feb 2020 #28

Hopefully, you're right, they will represent the voters, and respect the will of the electorate. DanTex Feb 2020 #29

In my opinion, Trump wins in a landslide against Bernie. showblue22 Feb 2020 #31

The data, of course, doesn't back that up. And in polls, most Dems say that Bernie DanTex Feb 2020 #32

And only four weeks ago you minimized, trivialized and dismissed polls as part of the conspiracy. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #45

Which data are you citing? ehrnst Feb 2020 #49

Take your pick. It all points the same way... DanTex Feb 2020 #50

Once the Rs drive up Bernie's negatives by focusing on his past words and positions redstateblues Feb 2020 #35

"Hopefully, you're right, they will represent the voters, and respect the will of the electorate." ehrnst Feb 2020 #51

Fortune cookies. You like them, yes? LanternWaste Feb 2020 #44

"And if the superdelegates don't respect the will of the voters, then the party fractures," ehrnst Feb 2020 #56

"Do they wish to vote for someone who got less delegates, and thereby ensure Trump's re-election by ehrnst Feb 2020 #53

What is the point of a 50% rule if it can be ignored? AGeddy Feb 2020 #40

"The superdelegates just need to respect the will of the electorate." ehrnst Feb 2020 #54

Your assessment is spot on. KPN Feb 2020 #36

Check the rules treestar Feb 2020 #58

Well, whoever gets a majority of votes AT THE CONVENTION will be, anyhow. MineralMan Feb 2020 #59

I wouldn't want to be the person... redgreenandblue Feb 2020 #60

Well, since it seems unlikely that anyone will have a majority of delegates MineralMan Feb 2020 #61