Democratic Primaries

Voltaire2

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40. That's fine but the op made a different and

Fri Feb 28, 2020, 02:14 PM

Feb 2020

inaccurate argument that unpledged delegates were all democratically elected and therefore not different than pledged delegates with respect to the process of selecting a candidate. That argument is wrong on the facts.

With respect to your point, given the de facto institutionalized status of both major parties, they really aren’t private clubs and their processes in a functional representative democracy ought to be as democratic as possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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There's no such thing as "superdelegates" and that term needs to be retired [View all] AGeddy Feb 2020 OP

Good point mcar Feb 2020 #1

LOL. That's not going to change how undemocratic having superdelegates is. DanTex Feb 2020 #2

The unpledged delegates were democratically selected by the voters AGeddy Feb 2020 #3

No they weren't. That's what makes them unpledged... DanTex Feb 2020 #4

Yes, they literally were AGeddy Feb 2020 #9

No, they weren't. Most are DNC insiders. DanTex Feb 2020 #14

False AGeddy Feb 2020 #16

Wrong. The DNC members like Tom Perez aren't elected by voters. They are elected by other insiders. DanTex Feb 2020 #17

Those 438 "others" FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #29

They are DNC insiders because they are members of a private organization. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #38

That's fine but the op made a different and Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #40

They were democratically elected. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #42

Nope. As documented across this thread, quite a few are simply appointed. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #45

It doesn't matter if "voters" know or don't. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #48

And why on earth would warren, Klobuchar or anybody running be superdelegates jimfields33 Feb 2020 #27

Did you vote for your representative and senator? Scoopster Feb 2020 #39

We voted for them to represent us in Congress. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #41

They were selected for a specific job The Mouth Feb 2020 #43

It's called "representative" democracy for a reason relayerbob Feb 2020 #7

Yes, we are trying to elect a president to represent the people. DanTex Feb 2020 #8

"party insiders" aren't unpledged delegates. Only office holders chosen by voters. AGeddy Feb 2020 #10

LOL. Which voters elected Tom Perez? DanTex Feb 2020 #20

Lol. You don't know much about the process of governance in the Democratic Party, do you? ehrnst Feb 2020 #53

Revolutions don't really go well with elections. You do know the one denies the other, yes? LanternWaste Feb 2020 #22

Sure, it's real "undemocratic" to have delegates frazzled Feb 2020 #26

How do you feel about former Senator Fred Harris DURHAM D Feb 2020 #32

How about each person gets the same vote? Is that a problem? DanTex Feb 2020 #33

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #5

They're not unelected. That's the point. AGeddy Feb 2020 #11

I first heard the term superdelegates on Russian TV. Walleye Feb 2020 #6

You were watching Russian TV in the 80s? Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #47

2016. RT was on a free broadcast channel for a while Walleye Feb 2020 #49

Ok 'cause they've been around since the mid 80's and they've been commonly referred Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #50

Being an ex-Vice President, Biden actually is an unpledged delegate.... George II Feb 2020 #12

Oops, my mistake. I'll fix. AGeddy Feb 2020 #13

No big thing. Obama and Bill Clinton are also unpledged delegates. Hillary isn't, but should be. George II Feb 2020 #15

numbers don't add up Pantagruel Feb 2020 #18

Yes, state reps as well. AGeddy Feb 2020 #19

Great list Pantagruel Feb 2020 #24

They have plenty of voice. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #30

Crying emoji Pantagruel Feb 2020 #21

Just backspace over it. Sloumeau Feb 2020 #23

Approx. 10% of "unpledged" delegates are lobbyists Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #25

70 people. Out of 4700. AGeddy Feb 2020 #28

That's 70 too many. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2020 #31

70 people- out of 700 super delegates are lobbyists nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #34

Who are the other lobbyists? LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #44

I've been around since superdelegates were created and they've always been called that. doxyluv13 Feb 2020 #35

Their official name is "automatic delegates", also known ans "unpledged delegates" AGeddy Feb 2020 #36

You seriously think Nancy Pelosi has "a hostile outlook on Democratic elected officials"?... PoliticAverse Feb 2020 #51

not all superdelegates have been elected to an office. dumptrump1 Feb 2020 #37

There are several categories for automatic delegates. LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #46

I am opposed to superdelegates MichMan Feb 2020 #52