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Perseus

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23. Although I am not a supporter of Sanders yet, but I am getting closer thanks to this silliness
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 03:32 PM
Feb 2020

So I decide to oblige your "what say you?"

I hope you all remember this day if Biden gets the nomination because I believe you will all be unpleasantly surprised. For one, trump WILL debate Biden, and he will have him for lunch, or dinner I guess because that is when the debates are on. Biden will do his thing of trying to be "bipartisan", which is what made us loose the first two years of the Obama administration, remember when Obama and Biden spent two years trying to bring the republicans to contribute to the well being of the country and we lost those two years? One would have thought that Biden would have learned that "he cannot negotiate with republicans", and trump, who already comes with a plan to give the opponent names, to lie against him/her, to bring out the worst they find in the baggage, etc. will not listen to anything Biden says, and will confuse Biden, so between gaffes and other things, trump will be having Biden for dinner right in front of our eyes.

Doesn't it make anyone wonder why is it that Biden has done so terribly at the Democratic debates? Anyone who thinks he did well was not watching, not reading articles, commentaries, they were going la, la, la, la, la, la, can't hear you!

Now, I know that even as stupid as trump is, that he knows how sharp Bernie is, so trump WILL NOT debate Sanders, it will be up to Sanders to do a very aggressive campaign, to expose all the dirt from not only trump but the entire GOP, which he can do.

On Clyburn...He is part of the status quo, of course he wants Biden, of course he doesn't want Sanders, everything he adores from our system which we all know doesn't work for the rest of us, but it does for him and his colleagues is in jeopardy if Sanders wins, I mean, all the pharma donations, and others that contribute to his campaign....For example:
Lawyers/Law Firms
$148,659

Insurance ---- See? Sanders is a threat to his $99, 661.00
$99,661

TOP CONTRIBUTORS 2019 - 2020
AFLAC Inc
$32,600

Votesane PAC
$29,000

Health Professionals
$71,881

Pharmaceuticals/Health Products
$64,310

Now you see why Clyburn is warning, he is just using different language, but what he is really saying is that if Bernie Sanders wins he can say goodbye to all those beautiful donations from pharma, the medical and insurance industries...Plain and simple.

I hope I have answered your "what say you?" question.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Listen to the man. Walleye Feb 2020 #1
Yes. Clyburn knows what he's talking about. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6
Unless he changes his mind and starts supporting someone else, right? Perseus Feb 2020 #34
Already Clyburn is wrong. Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #22
We are talking about the general electoin and not primaries Gothmog Feb 2020 #27
I agree with James Clyburn Gothmog Feb 2020 #26
'CARNAGE' ! empedocles Feb 2020 #2
Dramatic word to use, but IMO the correct one. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #10
Have been hearing this same Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #3
Yes, this warning should be heeded. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #11
Wow.. his comments about McGovern.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #4
Especially since Trump is far more dangerous than Nixon ever was jmowreader Feb 2020 #13
We don't need Bernie "McGovern 2.0" Sanders. :) nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #5
I keep trying to warn you folks. jaysunb Feb 2020 #7
It's hilarious you all think this will be like 1972. OliverQ Feb 2020 #20
The right aren't attacking Sanders now, because they want him as nominee. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #29
They're attacking Sanders constantly. OliverQ Feb 2020 #31
They're not on the same planet for attacking Sanders, not even close. Hillary had been OnDoutside Feb 2020 #41
He got beat in Iowa by a Mayor...we are only 3 contests in and he lost 1 AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #44
Where are the Bernie supporters on this thread.....what say you? Submariner Feb 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author TheSocialDem Feb 2020 #15
Now you done it! carlvsam Feb 2020 #17
One of them? So its one of your kind, and one of the other kind now? Perseus Feb 2020 #33
Although I am not a supporter of Sanders yet, but I am getting closer thanks to this silliness Perseus Feb 2020 #23
Clyburn: if Bernie Sanders wins he can say goodbye to all those beautiful donations Submariner Feb 2020 #39
Obama won because he promised something different. For years the democratic party has shed voters rwsanders Feb 2020 #25
Clyburn endorsed Hillary in 2016. OliverQ Feb 2020 #32
His endorsement wasn't wrong, in the face of republican russian hackery Submariner Feb 2020 #38
Devil's advocate argument. anamnua Feb 2020 #9
Don't be so sure RandySF Feb 2020 #36
I agree gordianot Feb 2020 #12
I remember that, too. calimary Feb 2020 #14
Not sure where you got that data, but take a look at this Perseus Feb 2020 #30
Bernie is going to do very well James48 Feb 2020 #16
It won't be Sanders that channels FDR.. FreepFryer Feb 2020 #19
Agree with Clyburn about needing to protect down ballot dems. I'm all for the Bernie revolution, but iluvtennis Feb 2020 #18
Don't make someone the de facto head of a party he despises. LisaM Feb 2020 #21
sanders is worse than McGovern Gothmog Feb 2020 #24
Much worse. McGovern didn't have the vulnerabilities in his background that the GOP highplainsdem Feb 2020 #28
crowds mean squat especially in urban areas in blue states evertonfc Feb 2020 #35
One's social circle can become a bubble RandySF Feb 2020 #37
Orange County? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #40
Parts of LA, portions of SF Bay Are, Inland, SD County, Central Ca. RandySF Feb 2020 #43
Bull. lees1975 Feb 2020 #42
You underestimate Trump. Remember what the polls showed in 2016. maximusveritas Feb 2020 #45
We can't afford 'down-ballot carnage'. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #46
No, we can't. We need a nominee with coattails. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #47
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