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rwsanders

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25. Obama won because he promised something different. For years the democratic party has shed voters
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 03:34 PM
Feb 2020

because of becoming republican lite. Most democratic voters (outside of the bubble here) support progressive policies and those policies are supported by a MAJORITY of republicans.
More of the same is unelectable, analysis shows the "swing voter" is actually and very small group and largely a myth. The side that will win will mobilize their voters.
Another moderate in the end will be ineffective at dealing with the threats we face even if they could win. Does anyone here really comprehend the threat that never ending wars and climate change pose?

Democrats held majorities at the beginning of Clinton and Obama's first term and nothing happened. The mood soured and they lost the majority in the mid-terms. They hemmed and hawed and insisted that they were frozen because they didn't have a super-majority.
The left has failed in this way world wide and it is causing a swing toward the radical right across the globe.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/nprs-egregious-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-fact-checked/

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/robert-reich-makes-the-case-for-sanders-and-warren/

So this is how I plan to judge my candidate (does yours make the cut?):

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Listen to the man. Walleye Feb 2020 #1
Yes. Clyburn knows what he's talking about. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6
Unless he changes his mind and starts supporting someone else, right? Perseus Feb 2020 #34
Already Clyburn is wrong. Farmer-Rick Feb 2020 #22
We are talking about the general electoin and not primaries Gothmog Feb 2020 #27
I agree with James Clyburn Gothmog Feb 2020 #26
'CARNAGE' ! empedocles Feb 2020 #2
Dramatic word to use, but IMO the correct one. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #10
Have been hearing this same Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #3
Yes, this warning should be heeded. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #11
Wow.. his comments about McGovern.. honest.abe Feb 2020 #4
Especially since Trump is far more dangerous than Nixon ever was jmowreader Feb 2020 #13
We don't need Bernie "McGovern 2.0" Sanders. :) nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #5
I keep trying to warn you folks. jaysunb Feb 2020 #7
It's hilarious you all think this will be like 1972. OliverQ Feb 2020 #20
The right aren't attacking Sanders now, because they want him as nominee. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #29
They're attacking Sanders constantly. OliverQ Feb 2020 #31
They're not on the same planet for attacking Sanders, not even close. Hillary had been OnDoutside Feb 2020 #41
He got beat in Iowa by a Mayor...we are only 3 contests in and he lost 1 AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #44
Where are the Bernie supporters on this thread.....what say you? Submariner Feb 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author TheSocialDem Feb 2020 #15
Now you done it! carlvsam Feb 2020 #17
One of them? So its one of your kind, and one of the other kind now? Perseus Feb 2020 #33
Although I am not a supporter of Sanders yet, but I am getting closer thanks to this silliness Perseus Feb 2020 #23
Clyburn: if Bernie Sanders wins he can say goodbye to all those beautiful donations Submariner Feb 2020 #39
Obama won because he promised something different. For years the democratic party has shed voters rwsanders Feb 2020 #25
Clyburn endorsed Hillary in 2016. OliverQ Feb 2020 #32
His endorsement wasn't wrong, in the face of republican russian hackery Submariner Feb 2020 #38
Devil's advocate argument. anamnua Feb 2020 #9
Don't be so sure RandySF Feb 2020 #36
I agree gordianot Feb 2020 #12
I remember that, too. calimary Feb 2020 #14
Not sure where you got that data, but take a look at this Perseus Feb 2020 #30
Bernie is going to do very well James48 Feb 2020 #16
It won't be Sanders that channels FDR.. FreepFryer Feb 2020 #19
Agree with Clyburn about needing to protect down ballot dems. I'm all for the Bernie revolution, but iluvtennis Feb 2020 #18
Don't make someone the de facto head of a party he despises. LisaM Feb 2020 #21
sanders is worse than McGovern Gothmog Feb 2020 #24
Much worse. McGovern didn't have the vulnerabilities in his background that the GOP highplainsdem Feb 2020 #28
crowds mean squat especially in urban areas in blue states evertonfc Feb 2020 #35
One's social circle can become a bubble RandySF Feb 2020 #37
Orange County? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #40
Parts of LA, portions of SF Bay Are, Inland, SD County, Central Ca. RandySF Feb 2020 #43
Bull. lees1975 Feb 2020 #42
You underestimate Trump. Remember what the polls showed in 2016. maximusveritas Feb 2020 #45
We can't afford 'down-ballot carnage'. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #46
No, we can't. We need a nominee with coattails. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #47
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