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Hortensis

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29. Harry Reid's a healthcare expert who had a huge hand in getting
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:34 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:11 AM - Edit history (1)

the ACA passed. Truman, Nixon, Carter, and Clinton all tried and failed to overhaul our healthcare "system," but Democrats lead by Reid and Pelosi, many of whom put their careers on the line to create a national healthcare system, battled through intense opposition to finally make it happen.

That Democrats finally did it obviously has been burning Sanders' butt ever since. This living proof that his demonization of Democrats as Republicans was delusional has, tragically, resulted in Sanders demonizing the ACA itself to justify joining the Republicans in trying to destroy it. There's no doubt that his joining their efforts to undermine confidence in the Democrats and the ACA played a real role in the devastating losses of 2016.

Responsible healthcare experts, the vast majority of whom support the ACA, can't provide a rational, respectable explanation for why socialist Sanders based a political campaign on creating a second capitalism-based, for-profit national healthcare system and joined the Republicans' efforts to destroy the ACA.

Answers to WHY Sanders didn't live his claimed goals by joining Democrats to to first complete the parts of the ACA the Republicans blocked, and then work to make it everything we need, would have to come from psychologists and cynical political campaign advisers.

But a big reason we have 100 senators and 435 congressmen in DC is to keep odd elements from kicking over the national bucket to serve personal delusions and political purposes.

Harry Reid is of course 100% right. The Democrats who battled for 2 years to pass the ACA have an absolute duty to the people not to allow Sanders and the Republicans to destroy it and then spend most of a decade battling the Republicans in a desperate attempt to replace it. Silly stuff, the catching on of such a idea in this very dangerous era so dangerously dysfunctional that future historians will point to it as an indication of the current political disorder.

Democrats also would never vote to eliminate all healthy and necessary competition in healthcare and or the ability of Americans to choose for themselves. Even if that wasn't found to be unconstitutional, we're Democrats and believe in representative government that serves the wishes of the people.

Thanks, Harry, for an injection of that reality from someone who knows.

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So is Reid emblematic of what Democrats have done for this country for the past 30 years? Ron Green Feb 2020 #1
Wall Street criminals have created our corrupt American Healthcare System. democratisphere Feb 2020 #8
Well, he isn't in the Senate anymore. AllyCat Feb 2020 #2
He's telling the truth. Bernie is promising something he knows won't pass redstateblues Feb 2020 #3
'not a chance in hell' is something that young people will never hear from Bernie Autumn Feb 2020 #4
So how will sanders pass this bill in the real world? How does a voter revoluton work? Gothmog Feb 2020 #6
Same way Obama passed the ACA. I don't click on your response past the header so that's Autumn Feb 2020 #9
Obama had more that 25 Democratic senators supporting the ACA Gothmog Feb 2020 #11
Same way? Midnightwalk Feb 2020 #14
That's the only way, but I do know Bernie won't water it down. As for the rest of your post it Autumn Feb 2020 #15
This makes me smile-sanders is unable to pass anything Gothmog Feb 2020 #24
"If young people use their power". Blue_true Mar 2020 #25
without his magic voter revolution none of sanders proposals will be adopted Gothmog Feb 2020 #18
Well sure. Bernie is used to promising stuff he know he can't deliver on. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #16
Reality Checks are always good. democratisphere Feb 2020 #5
Then let's vote out the roadblocks Red Oak Feb 2020 #7
So you want to primary and replace all but 15 current Democratic senators? Gothmog Feb 2020 #12
If they aren't part of the solution Red Oak Feb 2020 #21
LOL Luckily in the real world sanders has been a complete failure in flipping seats Gothmog Feb 2020 #22
Sarandon is going after Speaker Nancy Pelosi and so you may get your wish Gothmog Feb 2020 #20
It. Does. Not. Matter. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #10
sanders has no legislative accomplishments in the real world Gothmog Feb 2020 #13
It's within the framework of ACA to expand medicare to more and more people with 51 senators Johonny Feb 2020 #17
Sanders attackingthe Democratic establishment killed chance for sanders proposals to pass Gothmog Feb 2020 #19
Warren calling Bernie Sanders a massive failure. Fails to get things passed, Gothmog Feb 2020 #23
Not one item from Bernie's agenda is likely to pass even a committee NCProgressive Mar 2020 #26
sanders has NO significant legislative accomplishments Gothmog Mar 2020 #31
What is Bernie without canceling all student debt and M4All? Not getting GND either. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #27
Well, not with that attitude (n/t) wackadoo wabbit Mar 2020 #28
Harry Reid's a healthcare expert who had a huge hand in getting Hortensis Mar 2020 #29
sanders supporters are upset Gothmog Mar 2020 #30
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