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sfwriter

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6. By not campaigning there is one theory.
Mon Apr 8, 2019, 09:13 PM
Apr 2019

"CEDED??? How the hell did we do THAT??? "

By not adequately campaigning in the heartland and those three states, all Democratic stalwarts, in particular.

It is a quite popular theory among some and Clinton spends a chapter in What Happened? discussing and refuting it. Her take is that polling tanked there after Comey's October email announcement. It did, and she had no margin to spare.

Pete Buttigieg has pointed out, and caught hell for it from Clinton loyalists, that even the base messaging failed to offer those rural white voters a vision of the future. Remember these are guys who have seen wages and union membership plummet over the Obama years. He contrasts the appeal of Trumpian "Make America Great Again" with Clinton's "I'm With Her."

He is in Indiana and campaigned on her behalf and talked to those guys. He said she was ill served by her polling and messaging. The quote that got him in hot water with those Clinton Aids was:

“Donald Trump got elected because, in his twisted way, he pointed out the huge troubles in our economy and our democracy,” Buttigieg said. “At least he didn’t go around saying that America was already great, like Hillary did.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Biden leans into Obama identification [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 OP
Good. He's behaving the way Al Gore should have. DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #1
Thanks for the reminder. elleng Apr 2019 #2
Great minds think alike! SKKY Apr 2019 #10
'Democrats ceded those three states and Wisconsin elleng Apr 2019 #3
By not campaigning there is one theory. sfwriter Apr 2019 #6
Zacly, in fact. elleng Apr 2019 #8
Yeah, I think so too. sfwriter Apr 2019 #9
Well considering she lost three states by a combined 77,744 votes... Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #16
It never should have been that close. sfwriter Apr 2019 #17
There might be a sliver of truth to it but it's not substantial... Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #15
I saw very little in her messaging. sfwriter Apr 2019 #18
Then you weren't paying attention... Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #19
That's smart. I'm skeptical. sfwriter Apr 2019 #4
Obama was the last stable leader Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #12
Sorry, I don't follow. sfwriter Apr 2019 #13
I'm a proud Obama-crat. Politicub Apr 2019 #5
No shit. sfwriter Apr 2019 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #11
"...still basically liberal to moderate Democrats in the traditional sense". oasis Apr 2019 #14
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