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18. Joe and Pete camps attacked her all fall and completely laid off Sanders after

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 03:26 PM

Mar 2020

his heart attack, no doubt expecting he couldn’t hold up physically on the campaign trail.

They succeeded in bringing Warren’s numbers down as Sanders’ numbers rose. At the same time some on Sanders team were trashing her claiming her timeline for M4A meant she dropped it, iow, they lied. Recently AOC said Bernie’s M4A plan will also need a transition period. So, basically, Sanders team is a pack of liars who control what his supporters now believe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why did Elizabeth Warren's candidacy fizzle out so quickly? [View all] Music Man Mar 2020 OP

Elizabeth waited too long to go after Bernie, while he had no such reservations. eom tarheelsunc Mar 2020 #1

I don't think "going after Bernie" would have won her much support Bucky Mar 2020 #39

This is the exact opposite of what happened melman Mar 2020 #43

There's a theory that things happen, or don't happen, when they're supposed to. brush Mar 2020 #69

I don't know the answer to your question, Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #2

I agree. cwydro Mar 2020 #3

She is not a female Sanders. nycbos Mar 2020 #4

Yes, I absolutely want to be clear I don't believe that. Music Man Mar 2020 #5

Its what i call the Hillary effect. after she lost ppl conscientiously or not told themselves Kurt V. Mar 2020 #6

Definitely a factor BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #15

But Elizabeth is nowhere near as divisive as Hillary was. BComplex Mar 2020 #26

i agree but that's not a factor bc we tend to compartmentalize these things Kurt V. Mar 2020 #38

Yet Hillary won 65,000,000 votes in the general, the second most comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #41

Nowhere near as divisive as Sanders either. brush Mar 2020 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author StevieM Mar 2020 #49

When she was Secretary of State Hillary was the most popular politician in America for years. StevieM Mar 2020 #51

If that were true, that would suggest she would be a leading candidate now. nt spooky3 Mar 2020 #59

Warren said that's what Sanders told her, and it stuck in some people's minds. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #33

I don't know but it has been disappointing. Ace Rothstein Mar 2020 #7

Same for me. Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2020 #27

Probably suffers from a lot of the misgivings people have about Sanders DrToast Mar 2020 #8

Attacks from the middle at the debates over M4A distracting from her reform-based platform andym Mar 2020 #9

She needed to convince people they wouldn't lose the part of their pay medical insurance brewens Mar 2020 #54

I think sexism had a role HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #10

She seems to get flustered easily Shermann Mar 2020 #11

Interesting. She has always seemed to be among the calmest, most unflappable people to me. Music Man Mar 2020 #13

I can think of one DrToast Mar 2020 #16

Yes, that issue was handled poorly. Unfortunate that it came about at the start of her campaign. Music Man Mar 2020 #17

One thing. Now look at all the other candidates faux pas. Forgotten. If anything Warren fell into LizBeth Mar 2020 #32

She seemed a bit flustered when Beto accused her of being "punative" Shermann Mar 2020 #53

Warren is the least flustered which would be the inherent sexism along with emotional, LizBeth Mar 2020 #30

Fair point Shermann Mar 2020 #56

"emotional inflections" Like Obama had to walk gently with the angry black man? LizBeth Mar 2020 #60

I can only speak for myself LenaW Mar 2020 #12

Republicans were more normal people back then. blm Mar 2020 #20

I was an adult back then LenaW Mar 2020 #22

Her change came from intense study of economic issues blm Mar 2020 #24

"Late in Life" as opposed to not voting at all until you're 40? nbsmom Mar 2020 #34

I have no problem with Bernie being a democratic socialist LenaW Mar 2020 #50

I just noticed that you are relatively new to the board nbsmom Mar 2020 #64

Thanks for the Welcome. LenaW Mar 2020 #73

This! This! This! Skidmore Mar 2020 #67

I don't see this as an Elizabeth fail. Between the mealy mouths of tRUMP and the MSM and the abqtommy Mar 2020 #14

Joe and Pete camps attacked her all fall and completely laid off Sanders after blm Mar 2020 #18

The numbers didn't add up NYMinute Mar 2020 #19

Three words: Misogyny. Erasure. Amplification. nbsmom Mar 2020 #21

+100000 GaYellowDawg Mar 2020 #23

You had two old white men, from the start, suck all the air out of the room. LizBeth Mar 2020 #25

I asked the same thing about Kampala's campaign... SKKY Mar 2020 #28

Misogyny, most likely. Politicub Mar 2020 #29

Totally agree. Sexism is definitely a huge factor. BComplex Mar 2020 #45

I look at Warren and Klobuchar and wonder what is wrong with us as a party? Politicub Mar 2020 #61

THIS Steven Maurer Mar 2020 #68

When she had that surge and moved to the top Wall Street went after her bigtime! Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #31

She answered policy questions honestly Recursion Mar 2020 #35

I find her to be very honest Shermann Mar 2020 #58

She started to drop in the polls back in early October and Sanders began is ascent. Kaleva Mar 2020 #36

I saw it somewhere duforsure Mar 2020 #37

She seems to occupy a middle ground Codeine Mar 2020 #40

I'll say sexism rather than misogyny. Bucky Mar 2020 #42

Wall Street. NYT went all "Anyone but Warren!" a few months ago. McCamy Taylor Mar 2020 #44

Perhaps it's something hard to put one's finger on. stopbush Mar 2020 #47

I think she's very presidential. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #62

She's a bit school marmish for my taste, not that my taste is the be all and end all. stopbush Mar 2020 #66

2 things come to mind aikoaiko Mar 2020 #48

Bernie offered more goodies? at140 Mar 2020 #52

She had the audacity Codeine Mar 2020 #65

Xactly......nt at140 Mar 2020 #71

Warren deliberately ran toward the progressive wing stopdiggin Mar 2020 #55

In my observations musicman65 Mar 2020 #57

I'm not sure honestly. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #63

Successful bully campaigns on social media mathematic Mar 2020 #70

She didn't distinguish herself from Sanders quickly and firmly enough. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #72