Democratic Primaries

dware

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69. My opinion is based on the fact that America is a center to center left

Reply to Progressive2020 (Reply #64)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:02 AM

Mar 2020

country, and Bernie is a far left socialist, he needs Independents, moderate Dems to even have a chance at winning, and so far, he's done nothing but piss off the very people he needs to win by constantly bashing the Democratic Party, on who's platform he's running.

Also, his past support of dictators, such as Castro, Ortega, Chavez/Maduro, etc is going to be used extensively by the Trump attack machine 24/7, which will have great effect upon a sizable voting bloc in this country.

IMO, not only will he lose and lose badly, but he'll take down ballot Dems with him, and we'll almost certainly lose the House and no chance to retake the Senate.

I pray I'm wrong, hell, I would love to be wrong, but my gut feeling is that I'm right.

And as far as polls go, ask yourself just how accurate they were in 2016 and then ask yourself if you should really trust those polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I don't understand the Sanders' surrogates "post-Pete-dropout" strategy [View all] AGeddy Mar 2020 OP

bernie despises the democratic establishment. pete is from the establishment nt msongs Mar 2020 #1

Yup. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #24

Then he shouldn't expect votes radical noodle Mar 2020 #77

How is he "from the establishment?" dawg day Mar 2020 #85

The Establishment Roy Rolling Mar 2020 #88

You mean the repetitive insults squirecam Mar 2020 #2

Right.. even Before Pete so honorably, for our Planet, Cha Mar 2020 #93

Yeah, it's almost like they don't want - OhZone Mar 2020 #3

Jacobin politics do not value LGBTQ rights bluedye33139 Mar 2020 #4

That's a lie and you know it. Leftists have always been first to the right side of history. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #25

Like Castro denem Mar 2020 #97

We have different beliefs about history and reality, apparently. Thanks, but I disagree. bluedye33139 Mar 2020 #100

Chairman Mao sends his regards Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #101

Pol Pot for Art on line one Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #102

Joe Stalin would like a word with you Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #104

Yep FreeState Mar 2020 #96

It comes from the top down. Anyone, no matter in what minor volunteering position, on Obama's emmaverybo Mar 2020 #5

+1000000000 Lochloosa Mar 2020 #14

Plus a brazillion Hekate Mar 2020 #26

The opposition would hate Sanders no matter what. It's his ideology that scares rich people. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #27

Perhaps, but that doesn't address the point being made here. Jedi Guy Mar 2020 #51

+10000 emmaverybo Mar 2020 #80

Thanks for this JustAnotherGen Mar 2020 #98

Exactly your last paragraph. TY, JG Cha Mar 2020 #105

Sanders is the closest to me ideologically after Warren. Beakybird Mar 2020 #66

Agree with you and previous poster Frances Mar 2020 #74

you are dead ass wrong Hamlette Mar 2020 #79

I'm far from rich and he scares me. The thought of 4 more of Trump dem4decades Mar 2020 #84

You're kidding. Buzz cook Mar 2020 #75

No, I am not kidding. Perhaps they finally had to defend themselves. I don't want to fight that emmaverybo Mar 2020 #91

He promotes them. nt sheshe2 Mar 2020 #81

I heard someone today refer to the "moderate wing" Walleye Mar 2020 #6

You are correct. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #17

Sanders's policies tend to have more support among Americans. Just because rich donors and media ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #28

Of course Sanders' "policies" are popular. Sloumeau Mar 2020 #32

I'll be blunt about it: Turnout on the Democratic side will crater if Sanders isn't the nominee. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #36

I'll be blunt about it too, dware Mar 2020 #44

So Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #60

I'm not bashing, I'm stating my opinion, dware Mar 2020 #61

Alright Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #64

My opinion is based on the fact that America is a center to center left dware Mar 2020 #69

Reasonable Answer Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #73

We have to have a victory in Nov. dware Mar 2020 #76

Agreed Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #87

Another Point Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #82

You may be right. dware Mar 2020 #83

The question wasn't directed at me, but... Jedi Guy Mar 2020 #78

It Is A Real Concern Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #86

It's not bashing to disagree. dawg day Mar 2020 #90

Is that a threat? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #89

"I've never seen a campaign work so hard ... NanceGreggs Mar 2020 #7

He was elected. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #29

Boy, did you miss that one. dware Mar 2020 #45

No, I was referring to Trump. Trump was elected. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #46

With Russian help, with voter suppresion, dware Mar 2020 #47

The popular vote is not how our system works, unfortunately. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #48

I will agree with you there, dware Mar 2020 #49

Losing and whining about rigging and the establishment... W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #8

Grow the f*** up, Bernie surrogates. You're hurting your candidate. blue-wave Mar 2020 #9

LOL. Which surrogates would that be? Gee, I wonder why no links.... DanTex Mar 2020 #10

I listed them AGeddy Mar 2020 #11

Once again, no links. And we all know why. DanTex Mar 2020 #13

... AGeddy Mar 2020 #35

LOL. The Moore tweet is from yesterday, and it's not even about Pete! DanTex Mar 2020 #38

Re-read the original post. I was talking about Moore being a dick about Biden last night. AGeddy Mar 2020 #41

LOL- Once again defending the indefensible. You need links for Sirota and Michael Moore? LOL! redstateblues Mar 2020 #56

You could try actually reading the OP TwilightZone Mar 2020 #59

This behavior is so disturbing. madaboutharry Mar 2020 #12

Not as disturbing as your favored candidate's record. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #19

Nope. madaboutharry Mar 2020 #21

Iraq War support, crime, Clarence Thomas. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #22

Will you vote for Biden if he's on the ballot? Orrex Mar 2020 #58

I think Biden people were the ones that wouldn't vote for Bernie in some cases. jimfields33 Mar 2020 #109

That's not an answer. Orrex Mar 2020 #110

Bernie has no control over his campaign or his supporters NCProgressive Mar 2020 #15

Oh ffs. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #20

It is true. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #34

They believe in addition by subtraction grantcart Mar 2020 #16

Most ordinary working class people weren't supporting Pete and wouldn't if he were nominated. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #23

More typical Sanders supporters asserting facts not known and avoiding the real story grantcart Mar 2020 #53

So what you are saying TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #95

Who cares about "snark?" Politics is not about who has the best manners. ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #18

It's also not about pissing off the very people you need to dware Mar 2020 #30

Which people? The rich overfed media and Democratic Establishment? ArtTownsend Mar 2020 #31

LOL. dware Mar 2020 #39

Really? HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #52

It could be that also. nt dware Mar 2020 #54

Art, you cannot really be serious here. PatrickforO Mar 2020 #62

BS is a millionaire .......The rich overfed ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #108

Sanders is responsible for this. He runs his campaign in this manner. He respects no one. LizBeth Mar 2020 #33

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #37

Sanders made it clear he is clueless with women since 2015. Voting with vagina and PP establishment. LizBeth Mar 2020 #50

Exactly right!!! comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #42

That's all they know DrToast Mar 2020 #40

Yep, some pretty heinous shit from a very popular socialist podcast regarding Buttigieg... MerryBlooms Mar 2020 #43

I agree. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #68

More harm than good zak247 Mar 2020 #94

Those talking snark know Pete's supporters aren't going to Bernie, that it will help Biden. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #55

I totally agree. ramen Mar 2020 #57

You are, if you'll forgive me for saying so, a rare and welcome outlier Orrex Mar 2020 #67

It sometimes seems that many of Berne's supporters won't support any Democrat other than Bernie. Nitram Mar 2020 #63

You're correct, and they're proud to declare that foolish position outright Orrex Mar 2020 #65

I Agree Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #71

BS' supporters see themselves as first and foremost Bernie-ites, and see BS as the Dem-Alternative onetexan Mar 2020 #99

They always feared Pete, because he is everything Sanders isn't. Renew Deal Mar 2020 #70

My Bernie loving cousin is like a Trump supporter I'm with you. How does this work? Hamlette Mar 2020 #72

To theBernie bros and sistas zak247 Mar 2020 #92

Sanders doesn't have the temperament to work harmoniously with a Dem congress vlyons Mar 2020 #103

why did sander's surrogates stop and harrass a democratic congressional candidate? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #106

This behavior indicates how Sanders would govern. No thanks. yardwork Mar 2020 #107

They think they can win this race all by themselves Blue_Tires Mar 2020 #111