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Demsrule86

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83. It is what he said.You all twist yourself in knots trying to change the meaning.

Reply to Mr Tibbs (Reply #74)

Tue Apr 9, 2019, 03:51 PM

Apr 2019

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Do you support open borders? [View all] Voltaire2 Apr 2019 OP

No. Can't have open borders. democratisphere Apr 2019 #1

Why not? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #2

Can't have anybody and everybody just coming into the country democratisphere Apr 2019 #5

So if we could screen out all terrorists Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #6

No. I said you need controls and vetting. democratisphere Apr 2019 #8

So you agree with Sanders. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #9

No Sanders says we can't take poor people. I do not agree with that. . Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #22

No actually he didn't say that. Please provide a quote of Sanders saying we can't allow any poor Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #38

Here you go. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #49

That does not say "no poor people allowed". Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #53

The opening statement is 'there is a lot of poverty in the world'.,. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #58

I actually disagree with you, it might be poorly worded but I don't think his intent is what you've Agschmid Apr 2019 #59

Poorly worded always the defense when someone simply refuses to believe what is Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #61

I understand his intent as not supporting open borders. Agschmid Apr 2019 #64

There is a vast difference between open borders and Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #84

Nobody said they supported not accepting the poor. Agschmid Apr 2019 #96

I think that he was pointing out that since the biggest motivator for people to rgbecker Apr 2019 #66

Sen . Sanders lumped himself in with Trump with the idea that we not take the poor. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #85

So to you that means no poor people can immigrate to the US? Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #75

That is what it means...too many poor will come and we can't handle this . This is what Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #82

He was pretty clear Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #74

It is what he said.You all twist yourself in knots trying to change the meaning. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #83

He said we would be overrun because the world is full of poor people Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #89

Well that is so different yes sarcasm. His empathy is underwhelming. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #90

Now lets... Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #95

I am in no way saying he is right. Doreen Apr 2019 #80

Yes it is wrong. This is America and immigrants make us stronger. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #81

Or Worse! atreides1 Apr 2019 #27

No. Like Vikings and Barbarians worse. democratisphere Apr 2019 #92

They came on planes and that sounds like the right wing. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #86

We should be able to vet people entering. Blue_true Apr 2019 #19

Your idea is reasonable and makes sense. democratisphere Apr 2019 #41

And perhaps being poor should not disqualify candidates. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #87

We already are overrun with the wealthiest. democratisphere Apr 2019 #93

Not sure what you mean. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #94

Definitely should not. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #99

Nope. Agschmid Apr 2019 #3

Why not? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #4

Regulation at the points of entry is important for lots of reasons. Agschmid Apr 2019 #10

So even with border control how about Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #11

I didn't say I supported that in any way. Agschmid Apr 2019 #12

I just trying to figure out if anyone here Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #13

No not really curious at all. Agschmid Apr 2019 #14

Conceptually I do. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #16

Until the entire world joins in to such a policy, those allowing unregulated entry rgbecker Apr 2019 #69

which was exactly Sanders point. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #70

I do not think you're trying to figure anything out. LanternWaste Apr 2019 #23

Er no, I'm trying to understand the curious outrage. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #34

Nope. applegrove Apr 2019 #7

No. "What we need is comprehensive immigration reform" Autumn Apr 2019 #15

OM GERD!1! Just like teh looooo dobbbbbbbs!1! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #18

No, I don't. You can't have open borders. SKKY Apr 2019 #17

This. "common sense, compassionate immigration" MH1 Apr 2019 #44

I think they're two sides of the same coin... SKKY Apr 2019 #62

Good questions on this thread Voltaire. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #20

No blue cat Apr 2019 #21

That's rather vague. Define "open borders," with terms that the GOP does not use.(nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #24

Borders are more important than people. LanternWaste Apr 2019 #25

Stop trying to make open borders happen. betsuni Apr 2019 #26

Does anyone? happybird Apr 2019 #28

Not sure what that means treestar Apr 2019 #29

It means more or less no immigration restrictions. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #35

No. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #30

So what limits would you put on immigration? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #47

This conversation is suited for GD. NT WeekiWater Apr 2019 #56

I don't know any rational person who does. brooklynite Apr 2019 #31

Nobody I know does. Agschmid Apr 2019 #60

I support greatly expanding legal immigration. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #32

This. nt Skidmore Apr 2019 #40

But not unlimited immigration, right? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #46

This is dumb. Iggo Apr 2019 #33

why? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #37

No Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #36

Theoretically, yes. Practically? It's not practical. MineralMan Apr 2019 #39

Yeah I agree on the theoretical vs practical. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #42

But nobody is actually in favor of that. It's a false premise MineralMan Apr 2019 #63

Nope, right wing libertarians like the Koch brothers are openly advocating it. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #73

Without knowing it exactly, I support Obama's policy. CTyankee Apr 2019 #43

Not an open border policy. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #45

Of course! It would be crazy for us not to have regulations with regards to the border. CTyankee Apr 2019 #48

lol fail ! stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #50

so do you support open borders? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #55

No Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #51

Define zipplewrath Apr 2019 #52

Minimally: unrestricted immigration. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #54

Nope zipplewrath Apr 2019 #57

Open Borders is one of Trump's two word fascist newspeak slogans. Thomas Hurt Apr 2019 #65

Well sort of but Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #71

where does this stuff come from? stillcool Apr 2019 #67

I think our inability to answer your question speaks volumes about the Democratic Party. marylandblue Apr 2019 #68

Yup. Afraid to take a stand, we get our stand taken for us. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #72

One of the main reasons I do not support Sanders. He's too America First Hoyt Apr 2019 #77

Your idea is good also. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #88

Yes ck4829 Apr 2019 #76

I'd support regulated borders DBoon Apr 2019 #78

"Open Borders" Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #79

Does any industrialized country have open borders? nt USALiberal Apr 2019 #91

Apparently some of the EU member nations have open borders Hortensis Apr 2019 #97

within the EU they have open borders between member nations. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #98