Democratic Primaries

el_bryanto

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154. Well I'll just say that I like Warren quit a bit too

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:27 PM

Mar 2020

Only shifted to Sanders after the nastiness directed against him and anybody who supported him became too much for me. I haven't voted yet though (we aren't for another month i don't think).

And I don't believe that the right wing will have any luck working with the Senate - look at how many good bills are sent up to the Senate to die on McConnels desk.

Bryant

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Is there any silver lining for progressives? [View all] DanTex Mar 2020 OP

the silver lining will be ridding our country of trump and begin to fix what he and gop have broke beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1

Yes, but, many progressives believed, and still believe, that Bernie or Warren DanTex Mar 2020 #2

sometimes you have to accept compromise, looked how 2016 worked out for progressives who beachbumbob Mar 2020 #4

Agree completely. You won't find someone more opposed to "Bernie or Bust" than me. DanTex Mar 2020 #7

While I am blue no matter who - accepting compromise is not a great strategy el_bryanto Mar 2020 #12

Compromise is the reality of politics. It's very appealing for people to hear that its's not ehrnst Mar 2020 #37

So you think McConnel will be willing to significantly compromise ? nt el_bryanto Mar 2020 #146

Pelosi has had the most success with the GOP getting things at least partway passed. ehrnst Mar 2020 #153

Well I'll just say that I like Warren quit a bit too el_bryanto Mar 2020 #154

You supported a candidate because of "the nastiness directed against him ehrnst Mar 2020 #160

Yeah I misstyped that last line - should have read el_bryanto Mar 2020 #165

So you made a decision to support a candidate based on who didn't support him on DU? ehrnst Mar 2020 #166

Well to make it clear - i am a democratic socialist and am very frustrated by the el_bryanto Mar 2020 #169

So you were going to support Sanders no matter what you thought anyone was saying about ehrnst Mar 2020 #171

No - I am saying I was on the fence between Sanders and Warren el_bryanto Mar 2020 #172

So you choose a candidate because you perceive more hostility towards them? ehrnst Mar 2020 #184

I'm sorry if I was unclear. el_bryanto Mar 2020 #187

But you preferred the candidate you perceived had more hostility from Democrats ehrnst Mar 2020 #188

That is the simplistic way to put it, but accurate. el_bryanto Mar 2020 #189

So perceived rejection by Democratic rank and file is a plus for a candidate, in your opinion? ehrnst Mar 2020 #191

Yes - if centrist, corporate, Democrats attack Sanders that pushed me el_bryanto Mar 2020 #193

unfortunately politics is always ABOUT COMPROMISE adnd if you are in a superior positon like GOP beachbumbob Mar 2020 #139

By mature you mean Sanders should drop out now? Or he should accept the consequences of the el_bryanto Mar 2020 #148

Unless he can alter momentum TwilightZone Mar 2020 #155

Hey a week or so again when the momentum seemed to be in Sanders favor el_bryanto Mar 2020 #156

I don't see where I said he should drop out. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #159

Sanders could have withdrawn the minute that Warren announced, and endorsed her. ehrnst Mar 2020 #162

This is absolutely so right on. thucythucy Mar 2020 #205

Except she announced first. n/t seaglass Mar 2020 #211

I stand corrected... he could simply have endorsed her, since he encouraged her to run before, ehrnst Mar 2020 #212

We need to stop using "Voting for the lesser of two evils". LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #134

Why is it only progressives who have to compromise? Bettie Mar 2020 #215

because moderate position is a compromised between those more liberal and more conservative beachbumbob Mar 2020 #216

How will that happen if the SCOTUS declares the ACA unconsitutional? Bettie Mar 2020 #217

Well, it's up to the majority of the voters in the primary, not just Sanders/Warren supporters. ehrnst Mar 2020 #28

I agree. But that doesn't mean that Biden is the most electable choice. DanTex Mar 2020 #40

Apparently he's the most electable among Democrats, and that's what counts in the primary. ehrnst Mar 2020 #74

What matters is the GE, not the primary. Getting rid of Trump is the most important thing. DanTex Mar 2020 #76

No, the choice of Democrats to get rid of Trump is what matters in the Primary ehrnst Mar 2020 #81

He's not!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #78

Apparently to Democratic voters, he is. ehrnst Mar 2020 #84

Regretfully Warren clearly has no path to nomination after super Tuesday at140 Mar 2020 #64

If Sanders agenda is closer to Democrats, & opposing DT, then he'll drop out when Biden passes 1991 ehrnst Mar 2020 #77

I thought Harris was the best candidate to accomplish it mcar Mar 2020 #123

Let's be realistic. Thinking the coutry is ready to elect a socialist is a tremendous misread.., brush Mar 2020 #127

If you add Bernie's and Elizabeth's votes, they're more than Biden's. Doremus Mar 2020 #183

That is not true. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #203

Delegate count is approx equal if you add the progressive Doremus Mar 2020 #206

You could have said something nicer beside cleaning the crap off their glasses Perseus Mar 2020 #22

Thank you, Perseus. RobertDevereaux Mar 2020 #98

"Win with humility, lose with class." As a high school baseball coach, it what I told my players pampango Mar 2020 #99

Great quote. JudyM Mar 2020 #181

Not my problem to be nice, my problem is to call out those who put ego and idealogy first and beachbumbob Mar 2020 #210

Election after election BlueWI Mar 2020 #190

Thank you! Bettie Mar 2020 #218

+1 Hassler Mar 2020 #201

Universal Healthcare (in some flavor) will be in the platform. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #3

I have not seen it in Biden's agenda, but I really hope you are right Perseus Mar 2020 #25

He spoke last night of favoring cilla4progress Mar 2020 #147

No, it won't DiverDave Mar 2020 #27

He's against M4A.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #30

I guess DiverDave Mar 2020 #43

And still paying the insurance industry. DiverDave Mar 2020 #179

No he hasn't. He doesn't like Sanders' version of universal healthcare coverage. Obviously.... George II Mar 2020 #138

We are going to have universal healthcare. The current COVID-19 virus is Blue_true Mar 2020 #72

It doesn't work that way, this is what happens Perseus Mar 2020 #122

+1 JudyM Mar 2020 #182

It was in the 2016 platform. N/T lapucelle Mar 2020 #140

Yes mindfulNJ Mar 2020 #5

Wishing for four this morning. rzemanfl Mar 2020 #6

Four??? DanTex Mar 2020 #9

There is a ton of silver lining for us progressives. We are strongly united behind Biden. beastie boy Mar 2020 #8

unfortunately, progressives get mixed in the ultra leftwing who never care about what beachbumbob Mar 2020 #13

Biden is a progressive squirecam Mar 2020 #21

No, he is not, but he is a good guy and much, much better than the crap on the WH today Perseus Mar 2020 #29

since NO progressive has ever occupied the WH in nearly 90 years, Biden will come as close beachbumbob Mar 2020 #196

... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #79

Hallelujah!!!!!!! nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #75

... LexVegas Mar 2020 #10

Being a Democrat with a future starting now. IADEMO2004 Mar 2020 #11

Giant silver lining for progressives like us! LanternWaste Mar 2020 #14

The down ballot races Dawgman49 Mar 2020 #15

Warren was the better choice all along but no, she was just an obstacle to blm Mar 2020 #16

She is the better choice and if leftists had gotten fully behind her, they Blue_true Mar 2020 #90

I agree, Warren was the better progressive choice democrattotheend Mar 2020 #119

I could have lived with Elizabeth... easily!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #135

Yes, if it was really NotMeUs then Bernie never would have entered the race after Elizabeth did and seaglass Mar 2020 #131

I feel that. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #143

Lots of Progressives voted for Joe Biden Yesterday. stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #17

I know I did. Codeine Mar 2020 #33

I wanted Warren to come through, I am closely aligned to most of what she Blue_true Mar 2020 #95

I don't vote until March 17, I will vote for Biden without a second thought. Blue_true Mar 2020 #94

Yes, they sure did. Like lots of progressives that wanted Hillary's R B Garr Mar 2020 #109

2 things Freddie Mar 2020 #18

I believe that a good public option that employers can get behind Blue_true Mar 2020 #100

What plan do you have in retirement .? CentralMass Mar 2020 #114

I'm 63 and went on my husbands work plan Freddie Mar 2020 #141

I have a sister who just retired at 62. She had to purchase insurance and is looking forward to CentralMass Mar 2020 #152

not for a few years ....... rampartc Mar 2020 #19

This DiverDave Mar 2020 #34

I am not sold on AOC. Blue_true Mar 2020 #105

No thanks. nt TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #168

Lots of progressives voted for and support Joe! spicysista Mar 2020 #20

"It's never been about Bernie the person, it's always been about the issues, and the more he talks ehrnst Mar 2020 #23

Exactly NYMinute Mar 2020 #55

For myself, it's about Bernie the candidate. griffi94 Mar 2020 #60

Getting rid of Trump seems pretty silvery to me. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #24

That had to be difficult to write. Laelth Mar 2020 #26

The race is far from over... in case you didn't know. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #85

Sigh. No. It IS over. Laelth Mar 2020 #104

I understand & I'll try. Respect! IF you're right - & that's a BIG "IF" - I fear what happens next. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #133

You process it by looking ahead with optimism. Blue_true Mar 2020 #110

Joe is a good person. Laelth Mar 2020 #117

Hold his feet to the fire, without threats or bad conduct. Blue_true Mar 2020 #124

The same positions expressed by a better candidate Codeine Mar 2020 #31

Senator Warren was the person you mentioned this cycle. Blue_true Mar 2020 #111

I'm inclined to agree. nt Codeine Mar 2020 #157

People are scared of a trump second term. rownesheck Mar 2020 #32

Eggs cilla4progress Mar 2020 #151

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #35

Tired of this BS. we can do it Mar 2020 #39

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #41

You really need to get a grip on reality. we can do it Mar 2020 #48

+1 Cha Mar 2020 #80

Imagine if someone was to say that about Sanders. ehrnst Mar 2020 #61

Trump lost the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes and won the Electoral College by 77,000 votes* DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #42

Clearly Biden has a better chance of beating trump than any other Democrat (or independent) George II Mar 2020 #50

No way is trump beating Joe Biden! Why are you Cha Mar 2020 #73

I hope that doesnt happen but Bernie's still got some bearing on who goes against tRumpy The Clown. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #91

Yeah, because Warren will influence the platform. blm Mar 2020 #36

Yes how about saving our country from fascism first? we can do it Mar 2020 #38

Sure: more of Sanders's platform is likely to happen if someone other than him runs Recursion Mar 2020 #44

+1,000,000 nt NYMinute Mar 2020 #46

Wait till NY 14 holds a primary NYMinute Mar 2020 #45

during summertime, without publicity and GOP 🐀🔩 assistance robbedvoter Mar 2020 #52

It will be different this time NYMinute Mar 2020 #57

What do you mean? Blue_true Mar 2020 #113

Cheer up. Bernie got his cheering crowds one more time, and I'm sure will be writing another book ehrnst Mar 2020 #47

plus, maybe additional real estate out of those donations robbedvoter Mar 2020 #53

Bernie (and Warren) have some leverage to come to an accomodation with Biden if they hlthe2b Mar 2020 #49

Sure: like open primaries, cacases, NRA, limit immigrants, robbedvoter Mar 2020 #56

what the hell are you trying to say? hlthe2b Mar 2020 #58

Senator Warren is not into that type of compromise. Blue_true Mar 2020 #116

JFK and LBJ is an excellent example. People really need to read up on how Blue_true Mar 2020 #115

Yes Hav Mar 2020 #51

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #200

That's rich. BS' strategy of running up the score with young voters didn't pan out. They stayed... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #54

I'm not denying that progressives got beaten yesterday. By voters, yes. DanTex Mar 2020 #59

You say centrist. I say progressive. Let's call the whole thing off. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #63

I'm not particularly ecstatic about comparisons between 2020 and 2016. DanTex Mar 2020 #67

And since BS hasn't improved on his 2016 performance, I have no doubt he would lose in a... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #69

One silver lining is that Russia and the GOP don't get their favored candidate as the nom. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #86

Geepers!!!! If only I could state the gist of it as well. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #118

Thank you. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #129

Just an "on hold". Step one, rid us of trump. Step two Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #62

I loved Warren, Mayor Pete, Bernie and Amy but blueinredohio Mar 2020 #65

At the convention... ewagner Mar 2020 #66

When we vote safe, we get Trump Alex4Martinez Mar 2020 #68

Wouldn't surprise me. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #83

If you can't win the primaries frazzled Mar 2020 #87

Biden has now run up nearly a million vote surplus on BS just from Super Tuesday. You have to... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #112

The majority of voters on Saturday, yesterday and I am sure to come soundly Blue_true Mar 2020 #125

Only if Bernie doesn't unilaterally supports Joe. Problem is he's Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #145

The silver lining? Blue_true Mar 2020 #70

I do take issue with one thing you said Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #71

The people who think the issues are inseparable from Bernie aren't Bernie supporters. DanTex Mar 2020 #89

When I really soured on Bernie... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #97

I'm not so sure about that... OneGrassRoot Mar 2020 #102

That's correct, it's not about policy. betsuni Mar 2020 #202

POTUS, when done well, requires diplomatic skills, teamwork skills, and ehrnst Mar 2020 #136

Not true. Not about issues. betsuni Mar 2020 #204

I am happy that Bloomberg is backing Joe Gothmog Mar 2020 #82

We'll have a Democratic candidate that will accept the help of Bloomberg. We need all the ammo ehrnst Mar 2020 #88

Bingo. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #128

I understand your disappointment...but I believe it isn't enough to wait for a demographic Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #92

Good points. Blue_true Mar 2020 #132

Hmmmm - I always thought it WAS about Bernie, the person. OhZone Mar 2020 #93

That's what anti-Bernie people think. DanTex Mar 2020 #103

Like I said OhZone Mar 2020 #106

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #96

Yes. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2020 #101

Most don't want to tear down their house OBrien Mar 2020 #107

Joe Biden does not share Hillary Clinton's negatives ibegurpard Mar 2020 #108

Warren is young enough to run in 2024 Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #120

Silver lining: Bernie won't be the (self appointed) standard bearer of progressivism next time Blaukraut Mar 2020 #121

I agree... AOC is next in line, no doubt!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #137

One big problem is... BidenBacker Mar 2020 #178

To answer your title. ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #126

The key is to elect them at the House and Senate level. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #130

Bernie should continue to fight the good fight... BidenBacker Mar 2020 #142

the spin is incredible dumptrump1 Mar 2020 #144

You call it "spin"... BidenBacker Mar 2020 #149

Four days ago, Sanders was forecast to win ST by 150-200 delegates. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #158

which would make biden completely unviable given the favorability of the map for him. dumptrump1 Mar 2020 #170

Only one.. jcmaine72 Mar 2020 #150

Upton Sinclair, 1920. wyldwolf Mar 2020 #176

Bernie should let Warren talk about the issues all the way to the convention MH1 Mar 2020 #161

+1000. ehrnst Mar 2020 #163

I'm all for having a bonafide progressive on the ticket BidenBacker Mar 2020 #167

We ARE progressive. Y'all just want to jump into risky water. nolabear Mar 2020 #164

This is not an election where people want an outsider DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #173

Let's check a few numbers BidenBacker Mar 2020 #174

None wyldwolf Mar 2020 #175

Amen! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #177

... George II Mar 2020 #180

Bravo!! ehrnst Mar 2020 #185

Thank you. ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #186

+1000 sheshe2 Mar 2020 #194

Off topic a bit from the OP, but I'm curious about your assertion about the '16 GE... JudyM Mar 2020 #195

My assertion has been widely reported since '16 wyldwolf Mar 2020 #199

According to this, Hillary's primary voters had more than TWICE the defection rate to McCain JudyM Mar 2020 #207

Great response to the OP Gothmog Mar 2020 #197

Thank you! betsuni Mar 2020 #198

Tell him like it is! William769 Mar 2020 #208

Pretty minimal silver lining so far. BlueWI Mar 2020 #192

HOG WASH! A leopard never changes its spots. nt William769 Mar 2020 #209

No. There isn't Bettie Mar 2020 #213

Wonderful post karynnj Mar 2020 #214

Sanders doesn't get to define what "progressive" means, that's the silver lining uponit7771 Mar 2020 #219