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Nanjeanne

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6. Nuclear Option? I see he says "pass through reconciliation". Which is how the ACA was actually
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:50 PM
Apr 2019

passed without any Republican votes.

Go back in time - remember when Ted Kennedy died - the 60 Dem vote in the Senate died as well. So Harry Reid cut a deal with Nancy Pelosi. The House passed the Senate bill without changes and the Senate agreed to pass a separate bill by the House that made changes to the Senate version of Obamacare - which was called the Reconciliation Act of 2010.

The Senate at that time had 60 Democrats, just enough to pass Obamacare. However after the bill passed the Senate, Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy died. In his place, Massachusetts elected Republican Scott Brown. That meant that if the House made any changes to the bill the Senate wouldn’t have the necessary number of votes to pass the amended bill (because they knew no Republicans would vote for Obamacare). So Senate Leader Harry Reid cut a deal with Pelosi: the House would pass the Senate bill without any changes if the Senate agreed to pass a separate bill by the House that made changes to the Senate version of Obamacare. This second bill was called the Reconciliation Act of 2010. So the House passed PPACA, the Senate bill, as well as their Reconciliation Act. At this point PPACA was ready for the President to sign, but the Senate still needed to pass the Reconciliation Act from the House.

Here's a recap for those who don't remember the details.

July 2009: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and a group of Democrats from the House of Representatives reveal their plan for overhauling the health-care system.
August 25, 2009: Massachusetts senator Ted Kennedy dies
September 24, 2009: Democrat Paul Kirk is appointed interim senator from Massachusetts, which temporarily restores the Democrats’ filibuster-proof 60th vote.
November 7, 2009: House of Representatives, 219 Democrats and one Republican vote for the ACA and 39 Democrats and 176 Republicans vote against it.
December 24, 2009: In the Senate, 60 Democrats vote for the Senate’s version of the bill, called America’s Healthy Future Act
January 2010: In the Senate, Scott Brown, a Republican, wins the special election in Massachusetts
March 11, 2010: Now lacking the 60th vote needed to pass the bill, Senate Democrats decide to use budget reconciliation in order to get to one bill approved by the House and the Senate. The use of budget reconciliation only requires 51 Senators to vote in favor of the bill in order for it to go to the president’s desk for signature.
March 21, 2010: The Senate’s version of the health-care plan is approved by the House in a 219-212 vote. All Republicans and 34 Democrats vote against the plan.
March 23, 2010: President Obama signs the Affordable Care Act into law.

https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/resources/affordable-care-act/history-timeline-affordable-care-act-aca

It's so easy to forget how we got the ACA . . . And complaining? No where did Sanders complain - he said he would pass Medicare For All WITH 51 Democrats . . . how in hell is that complaining? Oh right - it's Senator Bernie Sanders who proposes something!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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Why Would They Me. Apr 2019 #1
Most wise Democrats are not suicidal. nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #2
I like the opt in to medicare option as a way to phase in universal comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #3
Opt in and make more accessible for those 55+ who are out of a job. MH1 Apr 2019 #12
Medicare for all who want it... a much better idea than forcing people comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #16
Yeah, riiiiight... tell that to Kamala!! She's cosponsoring Bernie's MFA plan... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #29
More like her biggest mistake. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #40
Kamala is smart... she knows which way the political winds are blowin'. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #41
I don't support it. Let ages 50+ buy in..then make it Medicare For All... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #4
he's not complaining, he's planning KayF Apr 2019 #5
That's right, Bernie is a planner, a leader and a doer... love to watch him work!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #30
He may be planning.. but he can't get the votes to pass his agendas.. so what was gained? Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #32
Unless we have 60 dems in senate and Dem president not going anywhere. FloridaBlues Apr 2019 #37
Oh he's a planner alright BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #42
Never get tired of the same old, boring argument I see... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #44
Nuclear Option? I see he says "pass through reconciliation". Which is how the ACA was actually Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #6
people are calling CNN out on this KayF Apr 2019 #11
Geez. I could read the statement and know what he said. You would thin CNN could as Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #14
You can't take away work place insurance period...his plan is DOA because 51 Democrats won't be Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
+1000 Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #33
It's NOT complaining and everyone knows it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #31
Sanders is complaining that DEMOCRATS, what's new ? stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #7
You Know Me. Apr 2019 #26
Sanders is complaining about the Dems...just fill in the end Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #34
Weren't you asking earlier how Sanders planned to get M4A passed? TCJ70 Apr 2019 #8
"Complaining" sells better. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #18
51 Democrats won't vote to take away work insurance while putting thousand and thousands of Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #21
"Currently only 15 out of 47 Democrats have publicly stated their support..." brooklynite Apr 2019 #25
Sounds like more of a "state of the bill" than a complaint. N/t TCJ70 Apr 2019 #39
Since BS won't support incremental changes to the ACA ... it's hardly surprising to see others SFnomad Apr 2019 #9
Bernie has never been a team player and never will be. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #17
Patrick Leahy has endorsed him, which isn't a surprise, being he is the other Senator from Vermont SFnomad Apr 2019 #22
Got that one right.. so what would change if...if he were potus? Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #36
With his long career as a politician and best selling author... WeekiWater Apr 2019 #10
I saw what you did there. Blue_true Apr 2019 #24
And IF the "Democrats" regain the Senate, and IF Amimnoch Apr 2019 #13
We must win the White House in 2020, and this isn't the way to do it. kstewart33 Apr 2019 #15
Sure Bernie, push republicans to invoke the "nuclear option" for this one bill, don't worry.... George II Apr 2019 #19
Yeah. Like McConnell and republicans are going to give Bernie what he wants. Blue_true Apr 2019 #23
bad, bad Democrats! How dare they oppose the most popular politician in the Galaxy? robbedvoter Apr 2019 #27
I'm not convinced that zero deductables or co pays is feasible MichMan Apr 2019 #28
Fix ACA before we look at anything else. oasis Apr 2019 #35
There's no fixing the ACA. Premiums will always rise. Yavin4 Apr 2019 #38
All he ever does is complain. yardwork Apr 2019 #45
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