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Tom Rinaldo

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Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:38 AM Mar 2020

Will "non Southern" Black voters give greater support to Sanders than have Southern Blacks? [View all]

Bernie's chances to rebound from Biden's strong showing on Super Tuesday depend to some extent on a "yes" answer to that question. Bernie doesn't necessarily have to outright win the total Black vote, but he certainly can't afford to keep losing it by 40% and have any chance of winning. It has already been widely reported that Sanders had more Latino support on Super Tuesday than did Biden. Not as widely reported was the fact that Sanders also led among Asian American voters:

"According to an NBC News analysis of exit poll data across Super Tuesday States, Sanders is actually leading with Asian American voters across the landscape. According to their tally, Sanders gets 39% of their votes, and 21% of Asian American voters back Biden."

It has been easy to find exit poll data about how poorly Sanders performed with African American voters in the South, with plenty of news stories highlighting that fact. Outside of the South however it is difficult to find any reporting on how Sanders did with Black voters. For example I can find no reporting on how well Bernie Sanders did with African American voters in California (if anyone knows where to find that data I would love a link to it). I did find this little tidbit of information, somewhat buried in a New York Times story that emphasizes the failure of an "increased youth vote" for Sanders on Tuesday, intriguing however:

" Mr. Sanders did do unusually well among black voters, who were a point of struggle for him in other states: He won 43 percent of them. But he only won 27 percent of white voters, who account for most of the Minnesota electorate." As an aside, since when has the New York Times starting referring to the sitting Senator from Vermont as "Mr. Sanders"?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/us/politics/bernie-sanders-young-voter-turnout.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Not a chance. apcalc Mar 2020 #1
I pointed to some polling data that suggests yes there is a chance Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #2
Try Nevada. Biden won the black vote there, and Sanders stupidly... brush Mar 2020 #4
Nevada was before Biden's late surge, but the African American voter breakdown was much closer there Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #6
And you think somehow it's going to get better after Biden's huge wins? brush Mar 2020 #8
Not going to Selma was classic Bernie BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #9
A real blunder... BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #22
27% isn't close to 36%. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #10
No, most True Blue American Mar 2020 #3
The NYT refers to Hillary as Mrs. Clinton. yardwork Mar 2020 #5
Thanks for pointing that out. I think it is poor form in both cases n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #7
It's been their standard for decades. It's outdated. yardwork Mar 2020 #12
I'm almost certain that Sanders did much better with black voters TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #11
All 15 of them. brush Mar 2020 #14
All 5?:) True Blue American Mar 2020 #30
Doubt it Todd79 Mar 2020 #13
Secretary Clinton won Missouri. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #20
Welcome (!), and that's a great point about AOC helping Sanders with the Latino vote. Makes a lot OnDoutside Mar 2020 #29
Thank you Todd79 Mar 2020 #31
Hillary Clinton won 75% of the black vote across the entire country in the 2016 primary. honest.abe Mar 2020 #15
I won't JustAnotherGen Mar 2020 #16
I know that ALL voters are individuals. I'd rather try to herd cats than make predictions. I'll abqtommy Mar 2020 #17
Michagan's the test case greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #18
African-Americans' love for Obama is a lot stronger than their love for Bernie NCProgressive Mar 2020 #19
Why should they? we can do it Mar 2020 #21
Ask yourself this question: Jarqui Mar 2020 #23
No. Raftergirl Mar 2020 #24
Anecdotally, I heard more chatter about Bloomberg than Bernie. I'm in the South, but every... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #25
When Sanders dissed Selma, he dissed African Americans nationwide. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #26
Nope. I'm surprised people are surprised about the AA vote. nolabear Mar 2020 #27
The only people Sanders is leading with is non voters, nt William769 Mar 2020 #28
Sanders had a chance with black voters and he messed up Moderateguy Mar 2020 #32
highly doubt any big increase of black voters support for Sanders. Why would they? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #33
"I can find no reporting on Sanders AA vote in California" TwilightZone Mar 2020 #34
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