Democratic Primaries

DanTex

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35. I hope you're right.

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 11:03 AM

Mar 2020

Because if you're wrong, and Trump wins again, I'm afraid that 2024 will be too late to learn the lesson that "safe" centrists like we ran in 2000, 2004, and 2016 is not actually a "safe" strategy. If we lose, the court will be 6-3 or even 7-2, and the rest of the judiciary will be full of crazy right-wing teenagers. And Trump will become even more unhinged since he doesn't have to face another election.

There are things that are different than in 2016 for sure, and the primary turnout is indeed encouraging. I hope all that, and people having witnessed how bad Trump actually is, is enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie chose Joe Rogan and Cenk [View all] showblue22 Mar 2020 OP

K&R stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #1

Yes, because Bernie expands the party. DanTex Mar 2020 #2

Who is Joe Rogan? True Blue American Mar 2020 #3

A roid raging comedian Codeine Mar 2020 #9

No wonder I True Blue American Mar 2020 #15

Wasn't he also rownesheck Mar 2020 #18

Forgot about that. Codeine Mar 2020 #19

Yep, just how many times can we watch people play with bugs? :) nt Sloumeau Mar 2020 #31

I listen to his podcast with certain guests: Neil De grass Tyson, Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson. johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #45

I think he hosted "Ow My Balls!" lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #54

He's also a magnet for gamergate incels. Crowman2009 Mar 2020 #61

Color me unsurprised. nt Codeine Mar 2020 #64

His interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson is fairly informative PJMcK Mar 2020 #63

Apparently a favorite among some Sander DUers who posted his endorsement as a major grantcart Mar 2020 #48

Because all they do is bring their deplorableness into our party... W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #6

"Fuck 'em" is a horrible voter turnout strategy. DanTex Mar 2020 #8

So are banal and witless political bumper stickers. LanternWaste Mar 2020 #10

ROFL Sloumeau Mar 2020 #38

It would probably be good if people quit disparaging other democrats. Some time in johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #49

ROFL SilasSouleII Mar 2020 #46

We are saying "fuck em" to those like Rogan who hate Democrats but are grantcart Mar 2020 #59

Yeah, that's not a good strategy if we want Rogan's millions of listeners to vote Dem. DanTex Mar 2020 #60

Lol grantcart Mar 2020 #62

Did you not just read where I said these people will not turn out for us in November anyway? W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #69

"For every blue collar vote we lose, we pick up two in the suburbs". DanTex Mar 2020 #70

We have had an election since then to test the results. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #77

You mean like saying the votes of Democrats in red states primaries aren't important ehrnst Mar 2020 #80

What the hell? Chakaconcarne Mar 2020 #28

Fuck the people that are "bringing in" disunity into our party. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #68

I believe that in this case... Sloumeau Mar 2020 #34

Some limits and standards are important. Least common denominator Trump expanded the GOP... lostnfound Mar 2020 #12

Huh. I keep being told that we need a big tent. DanTex Mar 2020 #14

Fair enough, but the results so far say that Bernie IS NOT bringing in new voters... brooklynite Mar 2020 #17

Tbf, what self respecting Democratic candidate would look to expand the tent by including Joe Rogan? OnDoutside Mar 2020 #20

True, but the question is, who will bring new voters in the GE, not the primary. DanTex Mar 2020 #21

We won those voters over in 2018 House races...with moderate candidates. brooklynite Mar 2020 #24

I hope you're right. DanTex Mar 2020 #35

Are AOC, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar considered moderates. johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #55

Can't afford Sanders "trust me". He's had a fair chances to show bring out chops and hasn't uponit7771 Mar 2020 #29

We've heard Bernard's stuff before awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #51

+1, and his "I haven't seen those numbers" responses to these facts last night on Rachael was subpar uponit7771 Mar 2020 #53

Bernie does better with groups who don't vote. greymattermom Mar 2020 #33

The flip side is, Biden does better with people that are already going to vote D. DanTex Mar 2020 #36

But DanTex, here is what you have to remember... Sloumeau Mar 2020 #44

Fair points, I hope you are right. DanTex Mar 2020 #52

There's NO reason for the people who were NOT going to vote D to sit out voting for Sanders NOW uponit7771 Mar 2020 #56

Bernie makes big promises about new voters, Sloumeau Mar 2020 #37

We do and can win have a big tent without assholes and racist if Russia isn't involved. uponit7771 Mar 2020 #26

Russia will be involved, that's the problem. DanTex Mar 2020 #30

It's about decency. showblue22 Mar 2020 #66

Calling Warren True Blue American Mar 2020 #16

They're not going to vote for a Dem because of Rogan. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #13

To people who don't vote as consistently as older people. uponit7771 Mar 2020 #22

And independents. And Joe Rogan listeners. DanTex Mar 2020 #23

We have to go on facts, Sanders "bring out" chops are mostly talk. Biden got nearly 1 mil more votes uponit7771 Mar 2020 #25

More votes in the primary. The general election is a different story. DanTex Mar 2020 #27

No its not, He's not doing what Obama did in 08 and that's the measure he needs to make that claim uponit7771 Mar 2020 #32

Would this be the party Bernie refuses to join? dlk Mar 2020 #47

That's the one, yes. DanTex Mar 2020 #50

How is that working out for him? mcar Mar 2020 #67

I think some are addicted to anger and resentment Walleye Mar 2020 #4

I quit watching Cenk True Blue American Mar 2020 #5

Yeah i've noticed that too. nt el_bryanto Mar 2020 #7

At least Cenk got demolished in his primary - he got 5%. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #11

I like Joe Rogan. He does reach a lot of younger people BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #39

I am not aware that this is a crime! McKim Mar 2020 #40

Progressive ideas like voting against the Brady Bill? LexVegas Mar 2020 #41

No more ideas like medicare for all, increased taxes on the wealthy and corporations, johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #57

It's not a matter of reaching out to progressive voters. cab67 Mar 2020 #43

10 days ago, Bernie chose freaking Castro AGeddy Mar 2020 #42

Yes.. Castro, too. Cha Mar 2020 #72

You know it is disingenuous because you read minds? Farmer-Rick Mar 2020 #58

He'd need to reach out to liberals/progressives, too morillon Mar 2020 #65

& BS did Not go to Selma with the other people Cha Mar 2020 #71

It just proves what is important to him. showblue22 Mar 2020 #73

Yeah.. a rally in California where he was what?.. 20% ahead? Cha Mar 2020 #74

Exactly! showblue22 Mar 2020 #75

No excuses. Cha Mar 2020 #76

Joe Rogan is "Goop" for the testosterone crowd ehrnst Mar 2020 #78

Lol! showblue22 Mar 2020 #79