Democratic Primaries

LisaM

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58. I'm upset and trying not to lash out.

Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:56 PM

Mar 2020

I've made my peace with Biden, but I find it really difficult to understand why, yet again, someone who was bested by Hillary Clinton gets to move on while she's relegated to the sidelines.

2008 - had more votes than Obama, but the DNC wouldn't count Michigan and Florida, so she finished second while Biden was a distant fifth (and he was put on the ticket, not her). Soldiered on with a smile.

2016 - beat Bernie by 4 million votes, was accused of rigging, was booed at her own convention, soldiered on with a smile.

2016 - had to battle bitter Bernie supporters, the Russians, the FBI, Comey, and Trump, still won by 3 million votes, but was hamstrung by the Electoral College. Soldiered on with a smile and a few tears.

Yet it's fine and dandy for all these people Hillary beat to run again, and if she'd tried it, well, we all know what would happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Warren was a once-in-a-lifetime candidate [View all] Recursion Mar 2020 OP

She truly was. I loved how she connected with people Politicub Mar 2020 #1

Yep, damn straight. warmfeet Mar 2020 #94

She certainly would have been. What a bitter loss. mahina Mar 2020 #99

If a certain candidate dropped out she would have been competitive. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #2

Progressives as a whole would have been better off with Warren relayerbob Mar 2020 #5

I found the "if she cared about the progressive movement, she'd drop out" comments amusing. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #32

Interesting how they would hire relayerbob Mar 2020 #44

and she was never grumpy or dismissive (or Castro-praising) renate Mar 2020 #86

Everything you said! FM123 Mar 2020 #3

I agree relayerbob Mar 2020 #4

A soulful, gutsy policy geek BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #6

In my best Yoda voice... "There is another..." lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #7

+1. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #46

Thanks for the happy and hopeful thought! RVN VET71 Mar 2020 #68

+1 nt drmeow Mar 2020 #73

Katie is my rep. Love her. BUT... stopbush Mar 2020 #77

maybe lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #78

I like how you think... nbsmom Mar 2020 #92

I haven't gamed it out lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #96

She is a professor policy incubator bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #8

Not sure I agree DrToast Mar 2020 #9

Classy BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #13

Oh noes.... someone with a different opinion than you DrToast Mar 2020 #14

Rinse, lather, repeat BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #15

When you can't dispute a point, just attack the messenger DrToast Mar 2020 #18

Yeah, and just like you, I got a shovel for Christmas BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #19

Warren was given horrible advice dansolo Mar 2020 #50

You have evidence supporting that? LanternWaste Mar 2020 #16

Sure. DrToast Mar 2020 #20

What Jack Assery. Jakes Progress Mar 2020 #70

+1 MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #88

I agree. Hillary is our once-in-a-lifetime candidate. There is no other woman in US politics who onetexan Mar 2020 #28

I can agree with that. Sparkly Mar 2020 #64

I'm totally with you on that, onetexan. calimary Mar 2020 #100

She was a genuine human being. She has consistently fought for middle class and poor. Fuck that bad johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #29

Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #35

Prove that she is one of the least popular Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #37

I've already linked it once in this thread DrToast Mar 2020 #39

Any scale that ranks Joe Manchin and Susan Collins above Warren is useless nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #82

No proof. Just an article that he completely misunderstood. Jakes Progress Mar 2020 #66

But, now we know for sure Bettie Mar 2020 #10

Yes it is. hunter Mar 2020 #23

Any doubts should be dispelled by today Recursion Mar 2020 #24

This! BlueMTexpat Mar 2020 #40

Exactly. Sparkly Mar 2020 #65

+1 denem Mar 2020 #72

No exaggeration at all! at140 Mar 2020 #11

++All you said thanks lunasun Mar 2020 #22

She can run again. I hope she does! nt cry baby Mar 2020 #12

I really hope she does run again... berksdem Mar 2020 #17

She has a plan for this IronLionZion Mar 2020 #21

She will continue to make major contributions grantcart Mar 2020 #25

We're all counting on her to stay in the fight. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #30

It will take a few days to change my choice in the primary forum rurallib Mar 2020 #26

Agreed BigOleDummy Mar 2020 #27

I can't give her up!! ancianita Mar 2020 #31

Politically, running as Bernie-Lite was a mistake NCProgressive Mar 2020 #33

It is not negative to say about her TimeToGo Mar 2020 #34

Perhaps she will get another chance in 2024 Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #36

I wonder what would have happened if she would have run in 2016 instead.nt helpisontheway Mar 2020 #38

A fighter marieo1 Mar 2020 #41

Agree n/t Kitchari Mar 2020 #42

Wish she'd have run in 2016. nt redqueen Mar 2020 #43

Why? nt Jakes Progress Mar 2020 #71

Because if she had, Bernie most likely wouldn't have. redqueen Mar 2020 #89

Agreed. Better if he hadn't. Jakes Progress Mar 2020 #91

+1! nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #45

Senator Warren's still with us, though. No "was." Hortensis Mar 2020 #47

i think she's perfectly suited to being a senator unblock Mar 2020 #48

After hearing the broken record known as BS... SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2020 #49

She is terrific.... NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #51

Truly. catrose Mar 2020 #52

Yep, and other than agreeing with you I will stay out of this thread with all the BASHING of her Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #53

I am now just hearing about the pinky promise for the first time. Firebrand Gary Mar 2020 #54

I love her....she is "Echt".... Pachamama Mar 2020 #55

I posted the same in another thread. Three in my family feel the same. An opportunity of excellence LizBeth Mar 2020 #56

Agree-- she is fantastic LymphocyteLover Mar 2020 #57

I'm upset and trying not to lash out. LisaM Mar 2020 #58

It really is Nikki28 Mar 2020 #59

"We will never get a woman president'. LisaM Mar 2020 #67

how about the "post" drmeow Mar 2020 #75

My heart is broken... abakan Mar 2020 #60

Yes it is samplegirl Mar 2020 #61

I was surprised, I actually jumped when I first saw the headline. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2020 #62

yeah...she had me all in for her 😟 TalenaGor Mar 2020 #63

I'm heartbroken n/t dsharp88 Mar 2020 #69

I was a staunch Warren backer. geardaddy Mar 2020 #74

funny, unless your lifetime has been 3 years, I think Obama still holds that position beachbumbob Mar 2020 #76

I'm with Bernie! James48 Mar 2020 #79

Oh well, time to go Joe. patphil Mar 2020 #80

No she's not lunatica Mar 2020 #81

I love Elizabeth DeSmet Mar 2020 #83

Yes. I'm angry and sad. IndyOp Mar 2020 #84

Agreed. This was a crowded field, and I have to wonder Qutzupalotl Mar 2020 #85

Quote from Warren email MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #87

She was one of the most intelligent people to run this cycle. musicblind Mar 2020 #90

Warren a Once In a Lifetime Candidate? JGug1 Mar 2020 #93

I'm despondent beyond words hangaleft Mar 2020 #95

I hope to have opportunity to vote for her ramen Mar 2020 #97

So true Drum Mar 2020 #98

Honor to have voted for her. Ptclear Mar 2020 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #102

Rachel reminded me last night - Warren could run in 4 or 8 years and she'd still be younger than IndyOp Mar 2020 #103

In a debate... El Mimbreno Mar 2020 #104

I agree! "Once in a lifetime candidate." Nitram Mar 2020 #105

She's not an outlier. She's the vanguard. There will be more. A President AOR is ... marble falls Mar 2020 #106

So was Hillary Clinton. MineralMan Mar 2020 #107

Agreed - I'm suprised that women are acting as if Hillary didn't exist dansolo Mar 2020 #108

Well, a lot of people who really liked Elizabeth Warren this year MineralMan Mar 2020 #109

Not just a plan. Kid Berwyn Mar 2020 #110