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Gothmog

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69. sander was the beneficiary of these efforts in 2016
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 03:31 PM
Feb 2019

Putin and Russia flooded sites like JPR and other sanders sites with fake news to hurt Clinton https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news-russia_us_58c34d97e4b0ed71826cdb36

Last June, John Mattes started noticing something coursing like a virus through the Facebook page he helped administer for Bernie Sanders fans in San Diego. People with no apparent ties to California were friending the page and sharing links from unfamiliar sites full of anti-Hillary Clinton propaganda.

The stories they posted weren’t the normal complaints he was used to seeing as the Vermont senator and the former secretary of state fought out the Democratic presidential primary. These stories alleged that Clinton had murdered her political opponents and used body doubles.

Mattes, 66, had been a television reporter and Senate investigator in previous lives. He put his expertise in unmasking fraudsters to work. At first, he suspected that the sites were created by the old Clinton haters from the ‘90s ― what Hillary Clinton had dubbed “the vast right-wing conspiracy.”

But when Mattes started tracking down the sites’ domain registrations, the trail led to Macedonia and Albania. In mid-September, he emailed a few of his private investigator friends with a list of the sites. “Very creepy and i do not think Koch brothers,” he wrote.

At one point, JPR had a half dozen threads on the greatest page of that website pushing the pizzagate story. After being laughed at on DU, the JPR site eventually ban pizzagate stories which were replaced by numerous other stories from Russia including some claiming that Clinton was dying

See also Russia Duped Bernie Fans via Facebook, San Diego Dems Toldhttps://timesofsandiego.com/politics/2017/03/23/russia-duped-bernie-fans-via-facebook-san-diego-dems-told/
Oliver Mitov was dispatched by the Kremlin to get Bernie Sanders fans to vote third-party in the November election, write in the Democratic primary loser for president — or not vote at all.

John Mattes speaks to San Diego Democrats for Equality, the the predominantly gay club in Hillcrest. Photo by Ken Stone
But investigative journalist John Mattes, describing how fake stories on Facebook helped defeat Hillary Clinton, isn’t sure who Mitov is.

“He may be a bot. He may be a person [or four]. He may be living in Macedonia, laughing,” Mattes told a rapt audience of 90 Thursday night in Hillcrest.
But Mitov’s thousands of posts — and similar ones from Albania and elsewhere — duped just enough of the 13 million Sanders supporters to hand the election to Donald Trump and prove Russia could hack American democracy, said the 66-year-old resident of Pacific Beach.
A major Sanders organizer in Southern California himself, Mattes admitted that “we were played.”

Again, Mueller has documented the support that Russia gave to Sanders. I trust Mueller on this.

Again, many voters will want to know why Putin and Russia put some much effort into promoting sanders if sanders runs again. If sanders runs in 2020 he will need to provide a better answer to this question than he has so far sanders will be asked about this in the debates
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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He speaks against fossil fuels Yosemito Feb 2019 #1
Do as I say.. not as a I do. honest.abe Feb 2019 #2
I suspect that many people will reject politicians with that philosophy. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #3
He should have campaigned in a covered wagon for those " three separate multi-day trips" for Hillary irresistable Feb 2019 #7
If only. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #18
IKR? workinclasszero Feb 2019 #24
+1000 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #46
So would your vote be affected by how fuel efficient Kamala Harris' car is? Or... thesquanderer Feb 2019 #35
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #39
I was asking a supporter of Kamala Harris. But... thesquanderer Feb 2019 #48
She doesn't live in a glass-house. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #40
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #45
Bingo. nt cwydro Feb 2019 #79
Oh, there's a large group of people who support politicians with that philosophy. namahage Feb 2019 #78
Don't they all say that? nt bobGandolf Mar 2019 #86
The same was said of Al Gore. crazytown Feb 2019 #4
What a disgusting attack. irresistable Feb 2019 #5
"Al Gore Busted About Private Jet Use" crazytown Feb 2019 #8
Pretty low for Democrats to use that kind of attack. irresistable Feb 2019 #11
+1 WordsMatter Feb 2019 #12
No shit workinclasszero Feb 2019 #28
No. They think he is a hypocrite. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #13
Hillary cares about climate change, too. She flew exclusively on private jets. irresistable Feb 2019 #15
No it doesn't. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #19
You are correct. It's the hypocrisy of it all. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #47
I think that Bernievdid his best to help Hillary. secondwind Feb 2019 #55
Yep, people in glass houses, and all.. whathehell Feb 2019 #27
Bingo! workinclasszero Feb 2019 #31
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #44
Sure he could have flown commercial, and likely had to make fewer appearances for Hillary Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 #52
My problem with this has nothing to do with fossile fuels LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #6
Three trips! Oh, no! Shemp Howard Feb 2019 #9
... lapucelle Feb 2019 #14
Medium links don't work. crazytown Feb 2019 #17
Nothing to see there anyway melman Feb 2019 #30
Here you go: ehrnst Feb 2019 #42
For God's sake, he was staying at Motel 6! whathehell Feb 2019 #29
"Especially since every other candidate hops a freight train to go places." workinclasszero Feb 2019 #34
I'm sorry, what? dchill Feb 2019 #10
Oh like when he was campaigning in a number Nanjeanne Feb 2019 #16
He requested a plane and staff. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #21
Me either Nanjeanne Feb 2019 #43
Where it turned out more campaigning Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #72
Huh.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #20
Ex-Clinton staffers are slamming Bernie Sanders over private jet flights Gothmog Feb 2019 #22
Ex-Clinton staffers.... workinclasszero Feb 2019 #36
I hate to break it to you but Clinton staffers/supporters are not happy with sanders Gothmog Feb 2019 #60
Oh and no one in Hillary's camp did anything bad workinclasszero Feb 2019 #61
sanders is the reason why trump won in 2016 and we do not want to see a 2020 repeat Gothmog Feb 2019 #62
But you forgave the PUMA's right? workinclasszero Feb 2019 #63
The PUMAs did not keep President Obama from winning in 2008 Gothmog Feb 2019 #64
"real democrats" workinclasszero Feb 2019 #66
sander was the beneficiary of these efforts in 2016 Gothmog Feb 2019 #69
Why did Putin support sanders? Gothmog Feb 2019 #76
You left a VERY important paragraph in your choice of what to C&P.. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #67
the real question is whose staffers they are NOW? irresistable Feb 2019 #75
The only thing that bugs was the whole MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #23
For the most part, he did -- He stayed in Motel 6's! whathehell Feb 2019 #32
Pretty sure that was before he was assigned secret service. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #38
I'm not sure of that, but if true, so what? whathehell Feb 2019 #41
The so what is to your snark about Clinton. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #49
My "snark" is the hypocrisy of complaining about Bernie.. whathehell Feb 2019 #56
No, you tried to say that Hillary would not stay in a Motel 6. Blue_true Feb 2019 #81
Are you suggesting that Hillary, whathehell Mar 2019 #85
Are you suggesting that she would not? Blue_true Mar 2019 #89
Lol..Yes I certainly am, whathehell Mar 2019 #91
This is becoming juvenile, I'm out. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #95
That works for me.. whathehell Mar 2019 #96
With all of the charitable work she and her husband contribute, who gives a fuck where she stays? MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #90
I "give a fuck" whathehell Mar 2019 #92
Oh well. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #93
Uh huh. whathehell Mar 2019 #94
Impossible. My DU sources informed me that Sanders didn't campaign for Clinton n/t Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 #25
He did a handful of trips. I think 3-4 total. Blue_true Feb 2019 #82
Yes. What Hillary did was extraordinary Tom Rinaldo Mar 2019 #87
How many private jets did they take? whathehell Feb 2019 #26
But, he didn't do enough. Some people just like to complain. jalan48 Feb 2019 #33
Bitterbitterbitter BeyondGeography Feb 2019 #37
Exactly. KPN Feb 2019 #51
Must think he is Ric Flair now nt. Trenzalore Feb 2019 #50
Now thats scraping the barrel. Of note Hillary's campaign spent over $2 million on private air CentralMass Feb 2019 #53
Isn't that nice, staffers, let's slam him; what a good idea. elleng Feb 2019 #54
Maybe $200K could have sent him to PA, MI, and WI bigbrother05 Feb 2019 #57
Sanders is a big money politician. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #58
+1!! Cha Feb 2019 #71
Exactly. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #83
I'm not remotely a Sanders fan qazplm135 Feb 2019 #59
Lol this part of the heavy vetting? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #65
If this is the best they can do Sanders is home free. Nanjeanne Feb 2019 #68
I am glad that sanders will be vetted this cycle Gothmog Feb 2019 #70
Lol. By making up bullshit? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #73
sanders was treated with kid gloves last cycle Gothmog Feb 2019 #74
In the two years following the presidential election, Bernie Sanders continued his frequent private Gothmog Feb 2019 #77
Living the life that he had grown accustomed to. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #84
Yep Gothmog Mar 2019 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Feb 2019 #80
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