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In reply to the discussion: Ex- Clinton Staffers Slam Sanders Over Private Jets [View all]Gothmog
(178,272 posts)69. sander was the beneficiary of these efforts in 2016
Putin and Russia flooded sites like JPR and other sanders sites with fake news to hurt Clinton https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news-russia_us_58c34d97e4b0ed71826cdb36
Last June, John Mattes started noticing something coursing like a virus through the Facebook page he helped administer for Bernie Sanders fans in San Diego. People with no apparent ties to California were friending the page and sharing links from unfamiliar sites full of anti-Hillary Clinton propaganda.
The stories they posted werent the normal complaints he was used to seeing as the Vermont senator and the former secretary of state fought out the Democratic presidential primary. These stories alleged that Clinton had murdered her political opponents and used body doubles.
Mattes, 66, had been a television reporter and Senate investigator in previous lives. He put his expertise in unmasking fraudsters to work. At first, he suspected that the sites were created by the old Clinton haters from the 90s ― what Hillary Clinton had dubbed the vast right-wing conspiracy.
But when Mattes started tracking down the sites domain registrations, the trail led to Macedonia and Albania. In mid-September, he emailed a few of his private investigator friends with a list of the sites. Very creepy and i do not think Koch brothers, he wrote.
The stories they posted werent the normal complaints he was used to seeing as the Vermont senator and the former secretary of state fought out the Democratic presidential primary. These stories alleged that Clinton had murdered her political opponents and used body doubles.
Mattes, 66, had been a television reporter and Senate investigator in previous lives. He put his expertise in unmasking fraudsters to work. At first, he suspected that the sites were created by the old Clinton haters from the 90s ― what Hillary Clinton had dubbed the vast right-wing conspiracy.
But when Mattes started tracking down the sites domain registrations, the trail led to Macedonia and Albania. In mid-September, he emailed a few of his private investigator friends with a list of the sites. Very creepy and i do not think Koch brothers, he wrote.
At one point, JPR had a half dozen threads on the greatest page of that website pushing the pizzagate story. After being laughed at on DU, the JPR site eventually ban pizzagate stories which were replaced by numerous other stories from Russia including some claiming that Clinton was dying
See also Russia Duped Bernie Fans via Facebook, San Diego Dems Toldhttps://timesofsandiego.com/politics/2017/03/23/russia-duped-bernie-fans-via-facebook-san-diego-dems-told/
Oliver Mitov was dispatched by the Kremlin to get Bernie Sanders fans to vote third-party in the November election, write in the Democratic primary loser for president or not vote at all.
John Mattes speaks to San Diego Democrats for Equality, the the predominantly gay club in Hillcrest. Photo by Ken Stone
But investigative journalist John Mattes, describing how fake stories on Facebook helped defeat Hillary Clinton, isnt sure who Mitov is.
He may be a bot. He may be a person [or four]. He may be living in Macedonia, laughing, Mattes told a rapt audience of 90 Thursday night in Hillcrest.
But Mitovs thousands of posts and similar ones from Albania and elsewhere duped just enough of the 13 million Sanders supporters to hand the election to Donald Trump and prove Russia could hack American democracy, said the 66-year-old resident of Pacific Beach.
A major Sanders organizer in Southern California himself, Mattes admitted that we were played.
John Mattes speaks to San Diego Democrats for Equality, the the predominantly gay club in Hillcrest. Photo by Ken Stone
But investigative journalist John Mattes, describing how fake stories on Facebook helped defeat Hillary Clinton, isnt sure who Mitov is.
He may be a bot. He may be a person [or four]. He may be living in Macedonia, laughing, Mattes told a rapt audience of 90 Thursday night in Hillcrest.
But Mitovs thousands of posts and similar ones from Albania and elsewhere duped just enough of the 13 million Sanders supporters to hand the election to Donald Trump and prove Russia could hack American democracy, said the 66-year-old resident of Pacific Beach.
A major Sanders organizer in Southern California himself, Mattes admitted that we were played.
Again, Mueller has documented the support that Russia gave to Sanders. I trust Mueller on this.
Again, many voters will want to know why Putin and Russia put some much effort into promoting sanders if sanders runs again. If sanders runs in 2020 he will need to provide a better answer to this question than he has so far sanders will be asked about this in the debates
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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He should have campaigned in a covered wagon for those " three separate multi-day trips" for Hillary
irresistable
Feb 2019
#7
So would your vote be affected by how fuel efficient Kamala Harris' car is? Or...
thesquanderer
Feb 2019
#35
Oh, there's a large group of people who support politicians with that philosophy.
namahage
Feb 2019
#78
Hillary cares about climate change, too. She flew exclusively on private jets.
irresistable
Feb 2019
#15
Sure he could have flown commercial, and likely had to make fewer appearances for Hillary
Tom Rinaldo
Feb 2019
#52
"Especially since every other candidate hops a freight train to go places."
workinclasszero
Feb 2019
#34
I hate to break it to you but Clinton staffers/supporters are not happy with sanders
Gothmog
Feb 2019
#60
sanders is the reason why trump won in 2016 and we do not want to see a 2020 repeat
Gothmog
Feb 2019
#62
With all of the charitable work she and her husband contribute, who gives a fuck where she stays?
MrsCoffee
Mar 2019
#90
Impossible. My DU sources informed me that Sanders didn't campaign for Clinton n/t
Tom Rinaldo
Feb 2019
#25
Now thats scraping the barrel. Of note Hillary's campaign spent over $2 million on private air
CentralMass
Feb 2019
#53