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Uncle Joe

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37. You never answered my question as to WHY they like it?

Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:21 AM

Apr 2019

What service to health care does that industry actually provide?

Do their profits and bureaucratic processes actually take away from health care?

If the goal is to get affordable, accessible health care to as many people as possible as soon as possible then nothing beats Medicare for All.

I think you may be forgetting that the actual goal is to get affordable, accessible health care to as many people as possible, as soon as possible. The goal of any serious health care reform legislation is "health care," not raining down punitive wrath upon private insurance companies. You seem to be opposed to anything that doesn't put insurance CEOs on hooks in the town square. I feel the same way about the NFL that you do about health insurance companies. I don't expect anyone to take me seriously if I stood up at my son's high school and said "Filthy lucre made by the NFL is not "profit," so much as blood money. We need to banish football from our team sports, because it feeds their fandom, and their BLOOD MONEY!!!!!!!" I would say, "Here are the stats on repetitive head injuries sustained in sports such as Football on future brain function, from non-partisan medical studies."

People have choices whether they play or view football, the same can't be said for health care when their lives depend on it.

The for profit "health" insurance industry is dysfunctional at its' core because it has no redeeming value in regards to health care and actually takes away from it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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2020 presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders relaunches his Medicare-for-all health care [View all] Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP

And he'll get this passed by.....? brooklynite Apr 2019 #1

Should Bernie win the Democratic Nomination and the G.E. that would signify a seismic shift Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #2

Trump won the Republican nomination and the G.E.... brooklynite Apr 2019 #4

Trump was/is an oligarch masquerading as a populist, Bernie will rip him up. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #6

We can debate Bernie's ability to win a Presidential Election seperately... brooklynite Apr 2019 #8

You can't separate the two, they're too intricately tied together. Bernie has beaten Trump Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #11

I can make an extremely informed assessment of the Election outcome... brooklynite Apr 2019 #14

1. Bernie is running against teen number of candidates, it would be virtually impossible Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #17

So has Biden. But the difference is Biden can take the rustbelt and deny Trump Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #46

31 house members elected in18 are self identified moderates. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #47

You keep saying that, but I think you are getting cause and effect mixed up. ehrnst Apr 2019 #15

It's a circle, a seismic shift would get Bernie elected however Bernie being elected Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #19

A circle begins somewhere. And I'm not sure the "circle" you describe applies to all ehrnst Apr 2019 #20

The circle began with Bernie, very small in the beginning perhaps just a dot spinning around but as Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #22

So Senator Sanders is a planet now? ehrnst Apr 2019 #23

No ehrnst, Bernie is not a planet, it's called a metaphor Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #27

You get rather unhappy when some other people use metaphors. ehrnst Apr 2019 #52

I'm not unhappy about your metaphor down-thread ehrnst, it was just poorly conceived. n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #55

Poorly understood. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #57

he can say that Mexico will pay for it.. Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #3

If you wish to be serious here are some options that Bernie is proposing to pay for it. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #5

Thanks for posting this Uncle Joe billpolonsky Apr 2019 #9

Thank you billpolonsky Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #12

so which of those options do you believe are achievable? Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #10

Most or all of them depending on the political will of the American Nation and Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #13

But what if he doesn't win? Why is that necessary for the "political will of the American Nation" ehrnst Apr 2019 #26

Inspiring a movement is only the beginning. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #28

Al Gore would not have been able to focus on "An Inconvenient Truth" as POTUS. ehrnst Apr 2019 #49

Because, revolution! LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #56

A CBO score will be a bit more comprehensive, expert and objective. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #24

In regards to progressive health care reform, the CBO has it shortcomings, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #29

Your source of choice doesn't surprise me. It's one with a political agenda, for a specific bill... ehrnst Apr 2019 #33

Their mission is irrelevant to the point. If you have information to actually dispute their argument Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #36

Yes, their *mission* is relevant to their analysis. Why do you think they publish it on their site? ehrnst Apr 2019 #39

Are their facts correct or do you have facts to the contrary regarding the CBO's scoring Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #43

You sure don't apply that metric to a statement or analysis from WAPO or the Mercatus Institute ehrnst Apr 2019 #45

How will Warren get her childcare stuff passed? How will [Candidate X] get their [Policy Proposal].. TCJ70 Apr 2019 #21

Actually, no, it's not equally invalid criticism for every candidate's proposals. ehrnst Apr 2019 #50

Good on Sanders. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #7

Thank you Sen. Sanders & Sens Baldwin, Blumenthal, Booker, Gillibrand, Harris, Hirono, Heinrich, Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #16

63 that's five more than the OP article listed. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #18

Another bill that would die in the senate BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #25

People may like their doctors, nurses and hospitals but why would anyone like their Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #30

lol BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #31

To begin with, this doesn't answer my question as to why people would want to keep private Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #32

Many people like their private insurance. That needs to be acknowledged in any realistic ehrnst Apr 2019 #34

You never answered my question as to WHY they like it? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #37

Why do you think I can answer for the people in the poll? ehrnst Apr 2019 #38

I'm just asking for your opinion, sorry for the discomfort. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #41

"You never answered my question as to WHY *they* like it?" ehrnst Apr 2019 #44

When football; kills tens of thousands of Americans every single year Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #53

They'd keep it because they like it redstateblues Apr 2019 #51

Whatever the "why," the reality is that they "do", and any reality-based legislation will ehrnst Apr 2019 #35

Not knowing the "why" makes it much easier for our current dysfunctional Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #40

Then why don't you request that someone do a poll? ehrnst Apr 2019 #48

I'm asking questions as to the motivation, if you don't have any answers, even just your opinion Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #54

I'm posting because I have things to say. ehrnst Apr 2019 #58

Yeah, it's probably a good time to do that. themaguffin Apr 2019 #42