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BidenBacker

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23. It's all about semantics
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:05 PM
Mar 2020

Let's not kid ourselves...Republicans love socialism just as much as any left-winger. As long as it helps THEM or is for things they like. Taking money from citizens and giving it to the military so that they can provide for the common good and ensure national security? That's "socialism". Injecting taxpayer money into Wall Street so that our economy doesn't collapse when they get too greedy and royally fuck up? That's "socialism". Providing government assistance to red states whenever their residents get devastated by natural disasters? That's "socialism". Giving farmers a handout when a trade war with China wipes out their income? That's "socialism". But they will never call it that or admit to it because God knows "socialism" is pure evil and un-American.

As popular as it is on both sides of the political spectrum, the word "socialism" still scares the living shit outta most Americans. "Fascism" should scare them even more, IMO. "Revolution" is a scary word to a majority of people...so it's not terribly surprising that folks are shunning Sanders.

"Change" doesn't scare most people. God knows we need it and Obama used it effectively. "Evolution" is non-threatening...Bernie woulda done a lot better if he had dropped the R.

It's all just semantics. I once worked on the MX missile during the Reagan years. Support and funding were flagging and the program almost got cancelled. Then in a stroke of genius Ronnie changed the name to "Peacekeeper" and suddenly it got a whole lot more popular because it was not nearly as ominous-sounding as "MX"...almost sounds like a toy that you'd buy for your kid. And so it got approved and we went ahead and developed and deployed it. It was the exact same rocket that had a bunch of nukes on it that coulda obliterated most of the planet but hey, how dangerous could something called "Peacekeeper" really be?

All just words. But Bernie was doomed the minute he slapped the word "socialist" on himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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So many reasons.. Cha Mar 2020 #1
This line might sum it up the best HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #9
Sorry BS.. we Want to WIN the ELECTION of our Life Time! Cha Mar 2020 #12
Yep YUGE miscalculation HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #13
He can't see a difference between the two parties. betsuni Mar 2020 #33
Perhaps before it started DavidDvorkin Mar 2020 #2
The large crowds were deceptive PatSeg Mar 2020 #11
From day 1, Bernie built a campaign to appeal to 30% Gothmog Mar 2020 #3
Which makes no sense.. I want a President who is a Uniter. Cha Mar 2020 #10
I suspect that the less diverse people are part of his believers, the less he has to compromise, and OnDoutside Mar 2020 #20
Darn.. just didn't work out the way he planned it.. to Pete and Amy.. Cha Mar 2020 #35
He was only days away from it working, that close OnDoutside Mar 2020 #44
The timing of this whole thing is Phenomenal! Cha Mar 2020 #45
On such moments ... OnDoutside Mar 2020 #46
The wrong messenger. honest.abe Mar 2020 #4
With Bernie Botany Mar 2020 #5
Turning it into a personality cult would be the first step off track, IMO nt relayerbob Mar 2020 #6
I supported Bernie in the 2016 primaries, and voted for Hillary in the general, proudly, and excited Aristus Mar 2020 #27
Then their theory that Dump treestar Mar 2020 #28
I also voted for him in the primaries and HRC in the GE relayerbob Mar 2020 #29
Me, too drmeow Mar 2020 #31
I'm just so happy this is going to come to an end soon Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #7
It never really began. George II Mar 2020 #8
Sanders' campaign plan to win the nomination with only 30% of the vote Gothmog Mar 2020 #14
One would need substantial establishment support to pull comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #21
sanders evidently thought that he had the committment of the establishment to support him Gothmog Mar 2020 #40
Sounds delusional to me. nt comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #41
The BS campaign started to go wrong in 2012 when BS talked of challenging Obama Julian English Mar 2020 #15
1 word: Socialism. brush Mar 2020 #16
I have to disagree. Julian English Mar 2020 #17
It's all about semantics BidenBacker Mar 2020 #23
Exactly. The naivete of the man is stuning in thinking the nation would elect a socialist. brush Mar 2020 #38
I agree. It's the Socialism. We are not the Socialist party. We are DEMOCRATS. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #19
It went wrong when only three primaries were run .. CatMor Mar 2020 #18
The media was salivating over a Sanders-Trump contest. They comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #22
Yep .. They did it to Hillary and now are doing it to Biden. CatMor Mar 2020 #24
Just the idea of "revolution" is wrong from the getgo onetexan Mar 2020 #25
The constant railing against the "Democratic establishment" did him in bearsfootball516 Mar 2020 #26
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #30
His policy ideas are popular but 'socialism' scares Americans. pampango Mar 2020 #32
That's the thing... Ideas are great. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #34
I'm hungry, but make me something different to eat. RDavisJ1 Mar 2020 #36
Young people came to rallies but didn't vote Funtatlaguy Mar 2020 #37
Donald Trump in office. Too much craziness and instability. SMC22307 Mar 2020 #39
We'll read all about it in the next Sanders' book NYMinute Mar 2020 #42
Not dropping out when he should have in 2016... SidDithers Mar 2020 #43
Deep breath...Where do I start?? Blue_Tires Mar 2020 #47
Flawed candidate. betsuni Mar 2020 #48
This is amusing-betting market has Hillary being more likely to be nominee compared to sanders Gothmog Mar 2020 #49
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