Democratic Primaries

JudyM

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116. As if facts matter ...

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 12:17 PM

Apr 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Why are there Bernie Sanders supporters with Elizabeth Warren in the race? [View all] OilemFirchen Apr 2019 OP

...? handmade34 Apr 2019 #1

I briefly switched from Warren to Sanders. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #128

Sanders was Sanders long before Warren ran for office FBaggins Apr 2019 #2

Nope. Sanders was not in serious consideration before Warren opted out. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #9

The presidency is not all there is FBaggins Apr 2019 #40

Nope. shanny Apr 2019 #42

And Sanders was an Independent... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #61

Yes, the Republican Party, before she switched to become a Democrat. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #78

At least she made up her mind and stuck with it. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #86

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My post was about Warren and Sanders. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #88

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Bernie will bring Independents.... billpolonsky Apr 2019 #114

Would you care to elaborate? brooklynite Apr 2019 #115

Sanders switched between Leftish Independent and Leftish Dem. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #124

43% of primary voters voted for him JonLP24 Apr 2019 #121

So obviously true... but bears repeating and often. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #10

Thanks. zentrum Apr 2019 #84

That's for sure workinclasszero Apr 2019 #91

He has a loyal base... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #3

Hopefully, they'll BOTH be in the race... against Humpty tRumpy, who'll have a great fall!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #11

Because Bernie stuck his neck out and ran in 2016 while Warren played it safe BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #4

This Gore1FL Apr 2019 #12

Wrong. She told her constituents she would complete her term. we can do it Apr 2019 #27

He tried to get her to run, but she wouldn't. artislife Apr 2019 #139

support for Warren was mostly a cover for their hatred against Hillary JI7 Apr 2019 #5

True. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #13

I only see hatred for one candidate... it's certainly not Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #15

You mean for Sanders...and I disagree lostnfound Apr 2019 #19

That he's a man Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #6

Bernie is very much the fatherly figure; thats why so many young people look up to him...I sure do!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #17

fair enough Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #23

You're probably right about that... but, don't see why it should be that way. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #24

Sanders is a better outlet for anger BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #7

She was Sanders before Sanders was Sanders? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #8

Yes. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #14

Touche... but, I can forgive Elizabeth given the depth of her progressive evolution. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #21

That's right, only certain people are allowed to say that they "evolved." ehrnst Apr 2019 #33

Except Elizabeth hasn't done any of those things just to run for President. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #36

Like who? Only one in the field has run for POTUS before. ehrnst Apr 2019 #39

... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #41

Ditto. Tipperary Apr 2019 #47

IKR? ehrnst Apr 2019 #50

Civil Rights record. Moving to a rural 97% white state right after college in 1964. ehrnst Apr 2019 #44

Links to his civil rights record? sheshe2 Apr 2019 #55

What is the name of the AA woman he chained himself to? mcar Apr 2019 #73

She's been a Democrat for waaaaaaay longer than Senator Sanders has. ehrnst Apr 2019 #26

🔥 we can do it Apr 2019 #29

We have this as well. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #37

Actual progress for consumers. Actions speak louder than words, don't they? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #51

Yes they do. nt sheshe2 Apr 2019 #56

That is the biggest difference between the two Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #83

Sing it! MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #43

As if facts matter ... JudyM Apr 2019 #116

yep a dems ticket with 2 white new englanders? will that appeal west and south of the hudson? nt msongs Apr 2019 #16

Probably not. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #18

The same regional argument was made about Clinton/Gore, but they won. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2019 #125

The native American issue is going to cause her problems tymorial Apr 2019 #20

Don't think so. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #38

Not the reality Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #87

Not really; also from Huffpost LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #103

Yeah, really Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #106

Doesn't matter what Native Americans say... Trump will beat her over the head with it. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2019 #126

It does matter what they say Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #130

You took that the wrong way. thesquanderer Apr 2019 #134

Thanks for pointing this out. athena Apr 2019 #111

Yes, and to their chosen leaders Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #113

:) I just pointed out elsewhere that Warren was Sanders before Hortensis Apr 2019 #22

Elizabeth is very much her OWN person...and she'd compliment Bernie very well on the 2020 tickect!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #28

Has she dropped out? I hadn't heard. But Bernie would make a great VP for her. ehrnst Apr 2019 #34

Guess you didn't read my post to which you responded. I'll say it again for you... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #45

You agree with me! That's wonderful! ehrnst Apr 2019 #53

InA, Warren refused to endorse Sanders in 2016, Hortensis Apr 2019 #35

She was savaged by many Sanders supporters on social media when she endorsed HRC ehrnst Apr 2019 #54

:) I remember! Sanders himself regards all those who Hortensis Apr 2019 #58

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... mcar Apr 2019 #74

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Warren AND 'Undecided'. revmclaren Apr 2019 #25

People who are fair call out unfairness whenever they see it... they should be commended InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #30

I agree 100% and we'll know if I'm right revmclaren Apr 2019 #31

I think you ARE right... guess we'll soon see. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #32

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Lol. That will shake the election to the core! I don't doubt MSNBC and CNN will dispatch a reporter. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #49

I knew you would be dropping by... revmclaren Apr 2019 #66

I dunno... I was for Bernie in 2016. mwooldri Apr 2019 #67

I'm sure the majority of undecided DUers are just that. revmclaren Apr 2019 #72

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Excellent post... even though I have a few minor disagreements regarding Elizabeth. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #48

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Could see that too. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #77

If you find yourself agreeing with the obvious trolls... TwilightZone Apr 2019 #99

If you don't count Democrats, sure. ehrnst Apr 2019 #52

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"way ahead of everyone on all the major policy issues" TwilightZone Apr 2019 #59

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You mentioned wrongly then. Nobody was KPN Apr 2019 #57

this article from Slate touches on that topic FM123 Apr 2019 #60

Warren can't win... louis c Apr 2019 #62

Polls have a bad reputation now based on at140 Apr 2019 #81

Ya, they were off a point louis c Apr 2019 #109

Yeah right, Biden will take Trump to the at140 Apr 2019 #123

Maybe not. But he is the Democrat most likley to get more than 270 electoral votes... louis c Apr 2019 #138

Well then every other candidate can't win either Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #90

This election is about beating Trump... louis c Apr 2019 #110

I see a path for Warren Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #112

You mean Obama's Vice President has no path and Liz Warren... louis c Apr 2019 #117

Funny you have to resort to insults and RW talking points Bradshaw3 Apr 2019 #129

What RW talking pointa are you talking about? louis c Apr 2019 #137

Elect either one Ferryboat Apr 2019 #63

exactly. I trust both of them. They also trust each other. n/t Apple Fritter Apr 2019 #118

Because Bernie's supporters are mostly Green Party supporters and not true Dems... BluegrassDem Apr 2019 #69

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Most Independents are center right...to say Bernie would win all Independents is ridiculous! BluegrassDem Apr 2019 #92

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I never voted Green in my life JonLP24 Apr 2019 #122

Where do you get this from? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #79

What is the highest number of votes any Green Party candidate has ever gotten? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2019 #108

Warren Has So Much More to Offer-She is Doing an Excellent Job Pushing the Policy Debate dlk Apr 2019 #76

Warren is much younger, has much more energy, at140 Apr 2019 #80

I like liz Warren and she is my second choice, but lets not stretch the truth. She is 69, which is vsrazdem Apr 2019 #127

You are in for a shock! at140 Apr 2019 #131

Sorry, not in for a shock, I'm 65 already, and all people age differently. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #132

I could never develop the expert software at140 Apr 2019 #135

P.S. Jimmy Carter seems a lot more energetic to me than Trump. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #133

I am like 3 times more energetic than Trump! at140 Apr 2019 #136

I Agree With Your Logic 100%, Especially the Age. But I've Gotten Slammed for Pointing Out ... DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #82

She was one of the first to announce. dogman Apr 2019 #95

"Warren was Sanders before Sanders was Sanders". Uh, Warren was a Rethuglican until the mid-90's. MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #96

Referring to any Dem candidate as far left, is a meme you adapted from the far right. YOHABLO Apr 2019 #97

Sanders self-identifies as a socialist. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #101

I said nothing about the "far left". OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #104

Two reasons customerserviceguy Apr 2019 #98

What "Clinton machinations" were exposed by Wikileaks? betsuni Apr 2019 #105

I would guess it's because it's more about personality than ideology LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #100

She used to be so popular with Sanders supporters. betsuni Apr 2019 #102

40 years of consistency. roody Apr 2019 #107

boom MIC DROP. n/t Apple Fritter Apr 2019 #119

Bingo workinclasszero Apr 2019 #140

Warren wasn't Sanders before Sanders JonLP24 Apr 2019 #120

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