Democratic Primaries

Demsrule86

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25. No that is how we lose. Attempting to force an ideologically driven program that few want

Reply to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 12, 2019, 12:27 PM

Apr 2019

Into existence by raising taxes. What could go wrong ?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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"How will you pay for it?" is not the hard question with Medicare For All [View all] Recursion Apr 2019 OP

Should a single person pay the same tax as a family of four...or six? Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #1

Should a family with no car pay taxes that support roads? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #10

Yeah? I'd like to see how the politicians explain that. Right now.. Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #14

That's not a reasonable analogy, even if a family doesn't have a car they rely... George II Apr 2019 #16

So my federal tax dollars don't go to infrastructure? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #21

Libertarian Underground! progressoid Apr 2019 #46

And they also rely on the health of the people providing the goods and services delivered via roads. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #51

What does that have to do with it? SMH. George II Apr 2019 #52

Can someone help him out? I've given up. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #53

SMH II. George II Apr 2019 #54

Try selling that to the electorate...we go down in flames. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #19

And, I'll tax you to give you Medicare for all but you will still have to purchase supplemental Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #20

Right and those poor suckers on the ACA paying all their usual shit plus higher taxes while they Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #26

That's how taxes work. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #22

Everybody doesn't pay the same taxes. There are different filing statuses for Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #24

That isn't the same as the libertarian crap you are talking about. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #36

No that is how we lose. Attempting to force an ideologically driven program that few want Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #25

"few want"? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #35

Not when workplace insurance goes away...17 % approval. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39

Nope. 13%-17% depending on the poll Recursion Apr 2019 #50

Should I have to pay for a F-22 fighter jet? Yavin4 Apr 2019 #42

Or F-35s? George II Apr 2019 #55

The answers to those questions should at least be generally... WeekiWater Apr 2019 #2

It is all moot BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #3

+100000 Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #5

Sanders' totalitarian plan agree 100%. However, there are Hortensis Apr 2019 #11

Payroll taxes zipplewrath Apr 2019 #4

And in the meantime what about those on the ACA? Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #6

They're already covered zipplewrath Apr 2019 #7

They won't be. The ACA needs work assuming SCOTUS doesn't use MFA TO destroy it. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #13

I suspect it won't happen...so those who can't get it for who knows how long Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #17

This is not what Sanders is proposing and that's part of the problem. marylandblue Apr 2019 #12

What he proposes would upend the entire Medicare system and I can promised you.. Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #23

Everyone will vote against it except millenials on their parents insurance marylandblue Apr 2019 #29

Right now it's just a pithy slogan. I don't support any of the candidates Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #31

Everybody doesn't work. You can't tax people who don't work. A VAT maybe? nt Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #15

Anyone who gets asked that question needs to respond to the obvious... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #8

And those answer will never work. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #40

We are acculturated to believe that wealthy people are superior to us Yavin4 Apr 2019 #44

Because too many Dems have bought into Republican framing... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #45

:) But how will we pay for what's not included Hortensis Apr 2019 #9

There's a whole lot that Medicare doesn't provide for young people. Keep Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #18

Yes. The devil's always in the details -- the final ones. Hortensis Apr 2019 #43

Average Cost of Aircraft Carrier . stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #27

Sure, so run for ending the American empire, and you'll free up lot's of money marylandblue Apr 2019 #30

Cool Story, Bro , ! stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #32

Have you never thought about why we have so many expensive aircraft carriers? marylandblue Apr 2019 #37

why we have so many expensive aircraft carriers? stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #38

And what do you think an empire does? More importantly, marylandblue Apr 2019 #41

Start with a Medicare buy in. You will see some early retirements, freeing up long held jobs. Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #28

Medicare buy in for ages 50 and up. Medicaid buy ins aka ACA for everyone else. nt Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #33

An "unlimited" buy-in or complete move to M4A is my standard this primary season... TCJ70 Apr 2019 #34

And yet, virtually every other first world nation has managed... tkmorris Apr 2019 #47

So why skip them? (nt) Recursion Apr 2019 #48

those seem like good questions KayF Apr 2019 #49

They'll screw it up and keep money flowing to the insurance companies madville Apr 2019 #56

Right now, people with no insurance, pay for the insurance of others. rickford66 Apr 2019 #57

12%, not 20%, and that includes administration Recursion Apr 2019 #58

Before the ACA I believe it was about 20% rickford66 Apr 2019 #59

They don't really. That 3% is their overhead before they hand off to the private insurer Recursion Apr 2019 #60