Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: "Joe Biden isn't moderate, he is on the right wing of the Democratic party." [View all]BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)It's the best I could find after so many years but it will give you just a small whiff of what I was talking about...
https://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.iraq03oct03-story.html
The Senate is expected to approve a resolution in strong support of the president's position, though a lively debate - possibly including more than one Democratic alternative - is all but assured.
Biden and Lugar want a chance for a vote on their proposal, which Daschle has endorsed. They are seeking to narrow the president's authorization so that force could be used only to protect U.S. security or to disarm Saddam Hussein.
By contrast, the compromise agreed to yesterday would allow force to be used to defend the nation or to enforce "all relevant" U.N. Security Council resolutions on Iraq. That language, Biden argues, could empower the president to go to war for other reasons, such as forcing Hussein to cease human rights abuses against Iraqi citizens or to free non-Iraqi prisoners.
Administration officials said Bush has no intention of using force for such reasons.
The Biden-Lugar resolution would also require Bush to either delay the use of force until the United Nations has approved a new resolution intended to disarm Hussein, or certify that the Iraq threat is "so grave that the use of force is necessary" even without international support.
There were all kinds of amendments being proposed back then but they all got shot down. The one Joe was trying to get through was the Biden-Lugar resolution which woulda reined in Dubya and gotten the UN involved. But it never even made it to a vote. While Joe was trying to get Dems on board Gephardt in the House who was eyeing a run for POTUS kinda backstabbed him by cutting a deal with Dubya and once the House folded any deal to put a leash on Dubya was dead so they ended up passing a full-blown AUMF and we all know what happened after that.
Had some Dem Senators like Sanders, Boxer, Wyden and others agreed sooner before Gephardt signed on to unrestricted military force they mighta been able to prevent a war. We'll never know.
Why Biden doesn't fight back with what really went down is beyond me. Maybe he forgot all about it...LOL.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden