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rgbecker

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197. Pretty good: Making up their own definition of "Millionaire"!!!

Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:29 PM

Apr 2019

They are just counting "investable assets". So no cars, furnishings, emergency cash accounts or insurance or primary house. I'd say the number of households with net worth over 1 million dollars then must be higher if we are going to talk about actual net worth, as in "Sanders' net worth make him millionaire, not a socialist". This household number would be indicated in the US census' numbers which it is.

Your point about the 2.5 average household size is well taken but it muddies the water if articles like this one are going to interchange the use of the word to describe individual millionaires and millionaire households as it does in the first two sentences. (Right out of the blocks, as the used to say).

Your last sentence is another unclear leap as I don't think Sanders is reporting anything...the numbers are from a Forbes' guess. Maybe they got it wrong. That kind of phrasing sounds a bit like your bashing Sanders when his word is not at issue because it isn't even his word. Suspicion of under reporting....call Mueller! WTF? Please save the attacks for Trump rather than for a Democratic presidential contender.

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How Bernie Sanders, The Socialist Senator, Amassed A $2.5 Million Fortune [View all] shenmue Apr 2019 OP

oy vey shanny Apr 2019 #1

Indeed sacto95834 Apr 2019 #15

His two Vermont homes are worth over half a million each. Blue_true Apr 2019 #98

How much acreage do the Vermont homes sit on? SMC22307 Apr 2019 #170

They sold the home that she inherited, it was a cottage, if I remember the description right. Blue_true Apr 2019 #183

location, location, location sacto95834 Apr 2019 #217

I'm guessing Bernie is one of the poorest Senators... maybe THE poorest?? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #2

That would make little sense. He's been in office long enough, at a high enough pay, pnwmom Apr 2019 #12

Oh okay, gotcha... not that it should really matter. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #24

It shouldn't. But Hillary also got attacked for the same thing. pnwmom Apr 2019 #57

Normally it would not matter, but most, if not all, other members of the House and Senate.... George II Apr 2019 #160

RollCall looked into this for 2018, Sanders was #423rd out of all congress... DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #126

Roll Call relies on Senate Disclosure Forms which leave out Sanders's three FAMILY HOMES. pnwmom Apr 2019 #128

This form also does not disclose any of Jane's income Gothmog Apr 2019 #169

So he was already wealthier that something like 130 Congresspeople. Blue_true Apr 2019 #185

Between him and Jane they've earned close to $6 million since he's been in Congress. George II Apr 2019 #159

Shame on them!! Right?? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #202

Once again you say something that I didn't say. Not unpredictable... George II Apr 2019 #203

LMAO!! The English word "right?" with a question mark means I was asking a QUESTION.... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #206

Ah, the same ol' dodge, saying something then when it's pointed out as incorrect, claiming.... George II Apr 2019 #209

I thought we were having a SERIOUS conversation... apparently you're not interested. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #213

Poorest, not poor. SMC22307 Apr 2019 #171

Fair statement. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #200

lol stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #29

According to what I'm seeing TheFarseer Apr 2019 #63

I am pretty sure that you are wrong. Blue_true Apr 2019 #184

I'm no fan of Bernie but this article really annoys me EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #3

Agree, plus, circular firing squads will guarantee 4 more years of tRump nt yaesu Apr 2019 #6

Yes, agreed... the "circular firing squads" need to stop! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #77

Well he is a punching bag daily, so not like it's new. DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #7

um, to be fair we need to ask shanny Apr 2019 #19

Good question!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #79

Perhaps only the "Frontrunners" should stay in the race. Kanoko Apr 2019 #122

That would leave out Tulsi. (n/t) SMC22307 Apr 2019 #181

Very fair statement... I would only care if a candidate's holdings constituted ill-gotten gains. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #134

I'm thinking Trump now has ANOTHER copy of FORBES that he'd enjoy being spanked with. TrollBuster9090 Apr 2019 #82

i agree... this is a stupid article and 2.5 mil is hardly a 'fortune' samnsara Apr 2019 #129

Me, too. It's a good thing to be financially successful. He probably has more than $2.5M. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #132

"Dems hate success " --Exactly this artislife Apr 2019 #158

Good post. Right-wingers attacked... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #174

That "weekend cabin" is 2,000 square feet..... George II Apr 2019 #239

Three homes... lapucelle Apr 2019 #4

in Vermont shanny Apr 2019 #18

One is a row house in DC near the Capitol. lapucelle Apr 2019 #20

the numbers sound so big, don't they? shanny Apr 2019 #27

I clicked on the link in the OP. lapucelle Apr 2019 #37

OK. Then I guess I have to ask why the OP is citing Forbes shanny Apr 2019 #39

Oh so now it's down to kill the messenger. Cha Apr 2019 #40

Surprised it took that long. betsuni Apr 2019 #42

Apparently, there will be an an interrogation concerning clicking on links. lapucelle Apr 2019 #47

You do that, dear. lapucelle Apr 2019 #44

bless your heart shanny Apr 2019 #93

If I had to guess? sheshe2 Apr 2019 #116

The story about BS's wealth appeared in a magazine that covers wealth, wealth acquisition, lapucelle Apr 2019 #139

What is wrong with Forbes? Gothmog Apr 2019 #147

The "inheritance" wasn't really that, Jane sold her share of the Maine house for $150K.... George II Apr 2019 #114

Zillow is not always a reliable rusty fender Apr 2019 #168

He paid $489,000 in 2007, and it is now assessed by the District of Columbia at $595,000... George II Apr 2019 #179

Yeah, because everyone needs 3 homes. Cha Apr 2019 #21

Why should anyone care? Having two homes is typical for out-of-town members of Congress. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #28

hell i had two homes for 4 years. saved hubby from having to commute samnsara Apr 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Apr 2019 #138

Why didn't he sleep in his damn office like Paul Ryan///?Q!1 SMC22307 Apr 2019 #219

Who are you to determine what people need? SMC22307 Apr 2019 #218

Vermont is not exactly cheap. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #53

In Vermont a home costing a half million is a mansion. Blue_true Apr 2019 #99

Bernie Sanders' three homes, from left to right ucrdem Apr 2019 #120

I wonder whether Bernie has a Bushco cigar boat hidden somewhere? Blue_true Apr 2019 #191

Do you have any interior shots?? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #207

I remember an interior shot... FORMICA COUNTERTOPS IN HIS *MANSION*! SMC22307 Apr 2019 #225

Seriously!! Surprised Bernie hasn't already withdrawn from the race in shame!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #234

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #135

You hit it on all notes. Blue_true Apr 2019 #193

LOL The middle house in the pic so kindly provided... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #216

Then it is either very fancy in the back and inside or someone inflated it's value. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #220

The third picture is an aerial shot to show the property. lapucelle Apr 2019 #233

Looks pretty rustic... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #237

Not really. Here's a Zillow link... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #235

In Burlington proper, meaning the very downtown, maybe. Blue_true Apr 2019 #236

This is a mansion... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #238

The top picture is an estate, not a mansion. Blue_true Apr 2019 #240

Mansion: a large, impressive house. SMC22307 Apr 2019 #241

Great! I'm happy for him. But, to be honest, 2 million dollars doesn't really mean much yaesu Apr 2019 #5

Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #31

Yes, seriously, & I'm not talking 20 dollar an hour auto factory jobs yaesu Apr 2019 #208

Wait a second. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #76

Yeah that post. Blue_true Apr 2019 #101

Wait, what about "economic anxiety" and inequality. betsuni Apr 2019 #104

Perhaps they meant factory owners... sheshe2 Apr 2019 #178

Hells yeah! awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #118

From my twitter feed Gothmog Apr 2019 #8

I like Charles Gaba's comment. George II Apr 2019 #11

Same here Gothmog Apr 2019 #62

Valid comment onetexan Apr 2019 #110

And again: I have no problem with Bernie earning $2.5 million, or $5 million, or $10 million Cha Apr 2019 #14

It's About Walking His Talk Me. Apr 2019 #52

But isn't that the line of thinking that give us "Al Gore flies in planes and owns a large house..." DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #124

Al Gore never criticized anyone for being part of the 1%, of being corrupt wealthy elites betsuni Apr 2019 #127

What you posted there makes no sense. DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #192

The Bleating As You Call It Me. Apr 2019 #156

Alright, different example: Clinton and her Wall Street speaking engagements. DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #196

Here's what Hillary says in "What Happened": betsuni Apr 2019 #201

It's nice to see she gave some personal retrospective on the matter... DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #211

Mr, Magoo Bumbling Me. Apr 2019 #205

This post is a good example of why I like our interactions and of what discussion should be in DU: P DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #210

... Me. Apr 2019 #221

"The issue is that until recently HE implied that anyone ELSE who did was automatically corrupt." betsuni Apr 2019 #61

I'm more interested TheFarseer Apr 2019 #68

He implied they should pay their fair share in taxes Tiggeroshii Apr 2019 #81

You're being fair to Bernie? Is that allowed? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #190

Lol at "amassed" Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #9

How many people on this site went from $500K to $2.5M in only two years? You? George II Apr 2019 #13

That's all you have?! Nice try!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35

Don't you mean "riiiiight"? George II Apr 2019 #38

I was lurking here in 2015-16 and remember there was at least one poster shanny Apr 2019 #17

"lurking"? Cha Apr 2019 #25

It has a different meaning for people who browse the net than in regular life Quixote1818 Apr 2019 #162

I suspect that someone who has posted 225,262 times on DU Mariana Apr 2019 #199

Yep. Don't 👀 now Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #34

"lurking"... SidDithers Apr 2019 #100

;) sheshe2 Apr 2019 #115

Yup... SidDithers Apr 2019 #136

What is so funny? Quixote1818 Apr 2019 #164

I know what lurking means... SidDithers Apr 2019 #166

Capitalism is okay now! betsuni Apr 2019 #10

Who knew obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2019 #16

Who knew it wasn't? Cha Apr 2019 #22

barely a fortune for an old senator with decades of experience AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #23

Since he arrived in Washington in 1991, he and his wife have earned in the vicinity of $5M..... George II Apr 2019 #46

Interesting. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #74

Oh? Cha Apr 2019 #102

Yeah, poor thing Cha Apr 2019 #67

wtf A $2.5 Million Fortune ? stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #30

that is not a whole lot of money these days... samnsara Apr 2019 #32

Bernie does own several homes lgrnwd Apr 2019 #54

Three. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #80

At least one has a hefty mortgage. (n/t) SMC22307 Apr 2019 #223

$2.5 million is not a fortune. earthside Apr 2019 #212

as one of my co-workers here in LA said DBoon Apr 2019 #33

$2.5 Million Fortune? madville Apr 2019 #41

To a lot of people, $2.5m is a fortune. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #48

Well stated. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2019 #60

I know.. it's weird trying to Cha Apr 2019 #70

Thank you! sheshe2 Apr 2019 #83

It really to see people that were piloring someone that owned an $800,000 home Blue_true Apr 2019 #103

Who owns an $800K home and who, exactly, was piloring [sic] them? (n/t) SMC22307 Apr 2019 #226

There have been posts here about the disgust of McMansions. Blue_true Apr 2019 #232

That's why Bernie fights for a liveable wage, healthcare as a... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #224

Tell that to poor people that work more than one job. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #87

That's not the context madville Apr 2019 #88

However it seems that the wealth was not gain over years of service. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #90

There's some data available on Open Secrets. lapucelle Apr 2019 #222

Kick and Recommend sheshe2 Apr 2019 #43

$2.5 million isn't "a fortune" these days, frankly. sandensea Apr 2019 #45

Ask single parents who are working three jobs to feed their families if $2.5m is a fortune. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #49

When Bernie was a single parent over 30 years it would have been a fortune too. dogman Apr 2019 #140

There are only 11 million people out of about 330 million in the US that have $1M. Only about.... George II Apr 2019 #51

I don't know where you got your numbers, but maybe you have a link. rgbecker Apr 2019 #69

I am LOLing my ass off seeing Bernie supporters defending the rich. Blue_true Apr 2019 #105

SWITCH! Cha Apr 2019 #107

I guess things are always conditional with some people. Blue_true Apr 2019 #109

So much for the lauded consistency and authenticity. betsuni Apr 2019 #111

I am suffering from whip lash! sheshe2 Apr 2019 #119

This is surreal lunamagica Apr 2019 #112

Sure is. Up is Down and Down is Up and Blue is Pink level surreal. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #187

Three houses and $2,500,000 isn't *really* rich. lapucelle Apr 2019 #142

I guess there is rich and there is Bernie rich. Blue_true Apr 2019 #188

That dqydj site has numbers that are much higher than others I've seen. Here's one as of Mar 2018... George II Apr 2019 #155

I thought about the possibility that he has been under reporting last night. Blue_true Apr 2019 #189

According to his 2015 Senate Personal Financial Disclosure, they have mutual funds.... George II Apr 2019 #195

Yep. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #198

Pretty good: Making up their own definition of "Millionaire"!!! rgbecker Apr 2019 #197

It's a nice chunk of change, don't get me wrong. sandensea Apr 2019 #71

Okay. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #89

See that, George. There's really only 311,575,000,000 folks who DON'T have millionaire status lapucelle Apr 2019 #148

I agree. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #172

Thank you. It's just a simple fact this day and age. sandensea Apr 2019 #175

Unless something nefarious is in there....his taxes are now a non issue since he has released them. UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #176

Which is precisely why our friend Cheeto is so anxious to hide his returns sandensea Apr 2019 #182

Pretty Good For A Guy Who Didn't Start Earning Decent Paychecks Until Almost 40 Me. Apr 2019 #50

Isn't that when he first voted as well? sheshe2 Apr 2019 #121

JUst About The Same Time Me. Apr 2019 #157

I'm doubtful that any of Sen. Sander's wealth was had through exploitation of the proletariat Devil Child Apr 2019 #55

I'm not surprised-- dawg day Apr 2019 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #58

So what. Nancy Pelosi owns 10 properties worth 23 million. What's the point. Are you saying vsrazdem Apr 2019 #59

Nancy Pelosi has not made a career out of bashing rich people. Blue_true Apr 2019 #106

Oh, so now pointing out the facts about the 1% is now bashing rich people, give me a break. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #123

Yet, now that Bernie is firmly in the 1%. Blue_true Apr 2019 #186

Yes, there seems to be a lot of hypocrisy going around. vsrazdem Apr 2019 #194

And if by some miracle it ends up being Bernie v. Drumpf... SMC22307 Apr 2019 #228

If it is Bernie versus Trump. Blue_true Apr 2019 #230

Good to hear. SMC22307 Apr 2019 #231

She sure doesn't. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #163

all totaled, his fortune adds up to less than half of Chelsea Clinton's apartment KayF Apr 2019 #64

Ouch! rgbecker Apr 2019 #73

What does Chelsea Clinton have to do with BS status as a millionaire? lapucelle Apr 2019 #153

Chelsea worked on Wall St., never said she wasn't a capitalist. betsuni Apr 2019 #91

Bingo. nt Blue_true Apr 2019 #108

Remind me again what Chelsea is running for? BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #144

"But, but, but... what about Chelsea Clinton?" lapucelle Apr 2019 #154

What does Chelsea Clinton have to do with BS's millions? lapucelle Apr 2019 #151

Book sales... eilen Apr 2019 #65

BS stopped railing against "Millionaries" Cha Apr 2019 #66

Nope. Not true. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #165

Making up facts about Bernie is all that's left... the fear and desperation is palpable!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #214

"millionaire" and "multimillionaire" are different words. betsuni Apr 2019 #215

I honestly don't care NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #72

Exacty, Riff.. well put! Cha Apr 2019 #84

Another Republican thread. watoos Apr 2019 #75

All you have are Insults.. calling this thread "republican".. Cha Apr 2019 #85

I've voted Democratic all my adult life. shenmue Apr 2019 #117

Nailed it watoos Devil Child Apr 2019 #125

Stop trying to get us to fight amongst ourselves. namahage Apr 2019 #149

Did you wag your finger at the OP as well, SMC22307 Apr 2019 #229

I'm Not A Bernie Supporter, But Chase Peterson-Wethorn Has My Permission To... TrollBuster9090 Apr 2019 #78

I notice BS is not calling out "Millionaires" anymore. Cha Apr 2019 #86

I wonder if "wealthy elites" is next to go. betsuni Apr 2019 #95

It damn well better be. BS broad Cha Apr 2019 #96

I am surprised Forbes didn't look into BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #92

Sorry folks matt819 Apr 2019 #94

2.5M is certainly a fortune. Especially in a country where a vast majority can't handle a $400... brush Apr 2019 #227

I really don't care that he is rich. I do care about him attempting to cover Blue_true Apr 2019 #97

Gotta wonder who's buying all those books. ucrdem Apr 2019 #113

Yeah, hard to imagine a guy with a million donations could sell a few books. dogman Apr 2019 #141

Yes, I wonder about that too. ucrdem Apr 2019 #146

Thank goodness we are holding Biden in reserve in case this net worth issue becomes a thing. rgbecker Apr 2019 #130

I've long thought that so many people run for President, so they can make money. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #131

The real number is probably double that. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #133

I would have thought that. dogman Apr 2019 #143

reminds me of a song BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #145

What is Forbes spinning here? dogman Apr 2019 #150

Oh! Turbineguy Apr 2019 #152

I would not believe anything from Forbes when it comes to candidates who push socialist policies Quixote1818 Apr 2019 #161

I look forward to seeing sanders made any charitable donations Gothmog Apr 2019 #167

If anybody on this thread won $2.5m in the lottery, they'd be just fine with that. shenmue Apr 2019 #180

Unless there is something nefarious in his taxes then it's all a non story. Also 2.5 mill is chump UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #173

Many, if not most, key progressive figures today are worth dozens of millions. MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #177

as balzac points out in the country doctor, (a socialist like society(cut off from capitalist) ) Kurt V. Apr 2019 #204