Wanna win FL in the general? This settles it once and for all. [View all]

[Celerity]

ZERO chance we can win FL if Sanders is the nominee. The vastly reduced Latinx vote he will garner will NEVER make up for Trump's white voter advantage. It is impossible.

Remember, IF we lose FL plus lose WI (or lose FL plus a bigger Midwest state that he flipped in 2016 like PA or MI which means a sure loss for us), there is almost zero path to beating Trump.

If ANY of our candidates (we only have 3 left and Tulsi is a joke) become the nominee and we lose FL and WI, we have no realistic path to winning, even if we fip MI and PA.

I explain

IF we lose WI and FL, we can WIN PA, MI, MN, VA, NV, NM, CO, NH and all the truly Blue states and we STILL lose 270-268, barring ME-2 and NE-2, which I deal with below.

Further explanation:

IF we lose FL and WI, the odds are very very high that IA stays red as well, leaving only AZ and NC as remotely possible pickups and Trump is polling strong in both, especially against Sanders. OH and IN, if WI and IA are red, will be even redder. Also, if we lose WI and IA, PA and MI are also back in somewhat play for him as well more than likely as the tendlines then skew against us, the same as 2016.

The map looks like this



The other possibility is the ultimate nightmarish way for Trump to win, one that will rip the country apart.

If you look at that map above, you will see I gave Trump ME-2 and NE-2, which he won last time. Let's say we flip either (but not both, which is the ONLY way we could realistically if we lost FL and WI, if we lose FL and either PA or MI, nothing matters, we are done at that point no matter what) back to Blue (a far more likely possibility than flipping AZ or NC or IA IF we lose FL and WI)

that yield this



or



269-269

Trump wins via the House electing him, even if we control the House. The process is that each state gets one vote and 26 are needed to elect a president. The Rethugs control exactly 26 House delegations, and the only two remotely close chances to knock it down to 25 are, ding ding ding... WI and FL (you can't make this shite up!!!), but due to gerrymandering and voter suppression, the odds of us flipping either are extremely poor. Also, we could flip one, but the Rethugs could gain the one tie state, PA, and that gets them back to 26. We have no shot at 26 ourselves, and could even lose some states that we control now with 1 seat margins, like CO, MI, and AZ or even other states we control as of now with more than a one seat margin.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fa6iq7MN40HIvob9li5z545pJhd1tQVgZ7GSn0kikLc/edit#gid=0


A 269-269 tie and Trump getting exactly 26 votes to win the POTUS in the House, which is the absolute bare minimum, and his getting them due to Rethug gerrymandering and voter suppression will cause riots I fear, especially if he gets crushed in the popular vote AND we hold the actual majority of House seats like we do now.

The nation may well not survive long term if Trump gets 4 more years and takes the SCOTUS to 7-2 or even 8-1 (Sotomayor has horrid chronic diabetes that has required hospitalisation already) hard RW (plus he will replace the ageing RW goon Thomas with a far younger model of thug) as well as the further cementing in of a multitude of RW hacks and scum on the rest of the federal judiciary.

All post-Brown v Board civil rights gains (and probably Brown itself) will be washed away, rolled back via a multiplicity of test cases shot up the federal judiciary ladder from the rabid RW red states. Furthermore, the RW will not stop at simply devolving decisions back to the states, instead they will try and ramrod down by force a nation-wide theocratic tyranny. The Blue states will eventually have no choice but the start a secessionist movement, which may well lead to a rupturing and rending apart of the union by 2040 at the latest.

Bernie needs to drop out and fully endorse and campaign HARD for Biden, and DEMAND his supporters do the same, demand it until he is so hoarse he can no longer speak. This #NeverBiden bollocks needs to be strangled in the crib, broken on the wheel ASAP, and Sanders simply must be one of the chief protagonists in its destruction.