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Gothmog

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27. No one took sanders seriously last cycle and so the press never vetted sanders
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:12 PM
Apr 2019

No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717

Finally, what happens when the oppo dump on Sanders comes? We have no idea, because it never happened in 2016. Clinton was so terrified of alienating his supporters and seeing them vote for Jill Stein in the general election (or not vote at all) that she tiptoed around him for pretty much the entirety of the primary campaign. That doesn’t mean that he’ll be destroyed when stories about the more colorful aspects of his history start cropping up, but there’s just no way to know.

Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: There’s no way to know how it’s going to go. But he’s got his work cut out for him.

See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0

2. How will he withstand more scrutiny and more attacks?
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)

Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.

There is a ton of strong opposition research out there that will come out this cycle
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I think it would help in Wisconsin if the nominee made some appearances in the state. 33taw Apr 2019 #1
Ignoring any state won't happen on Bernie's watch. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #33
Hopefully, it is more than Milwaukee and Madison. 33taw Apr 2019 #69
Trump will have his second rally in Green Bay tomorrow. Not 1 Dem. foolish strategy. 33taw Apr 2019 #72
Why, WHY OH WHY oh WHY, pangaia Apr 2019 #2
Why don't they describe t-Rump as a self-described mob boss? dogman Apr 2019 #4
sanders is not electable Gothmog Apr 2019 #3
+1000 nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #7
Why are people constantly posting right wing bloggers telling us how one of our candidates... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #8
The Washington Post isn't a "right wing source", and Henry Olson isn't a "blogger". Plus.... George II Apr 2019 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueStater Apr 2019 #11
Someone in your camp posted Lou Dobson video yesterdau.so Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #13
Because they're NOT.. you're just labeling Cha Apr 2019 #17
So that polling is not accurate? Gothmog Apr 2019 #24
No one took sanders seriously last cycle and so the press never vetted sanders Gothmog Apr 2019 #27
Good question! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #34
The polling numbers are not going to change in the real world Gothmog Apr 2019 #36
Polling numbers change all the time... didn't we learn anything from the last election?! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #38
Unfavorability numbers are very hard to change Gothmog Apr 2019 #39
Guess not. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #41
The pollster is rated A-. The source posting the poll... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #62
If sanders is the nominee, trump wins Gothmog Apr 2019 #68
Neither is Biden. BlueStater Apr 2019 #22
Biden's Bulldogs give him an edge Gothmog Apr 2019 #23
Every candidate, like Hillary & Joe, deserved their 2nd chance... 3 times is not the charm... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35
How can sanders get the nomination without African American voter support? Gothmog Apr 2019 #37
As I said, Bernie deserves a second shot at the nomination, like Hillary & Joe have had. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #40
Booing Congressman John Lewis was a bad move Gothmog Apr 2019 #42
Can you link to any video evidence showing Bernie ever did such a thing? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #44
I was there Gothmog Apr 2019 #46
You saw Bernie booing?! LOL, riiiiighht!! Didn't think you could show any video evidence of that. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #47
This was a planned stunt by sanders campaign and delegates Gothmog Apr 2019 #48
Oh okay... I didn't think so. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #49
LOL Gothmog Apr 2019 #51
There are many videos on Twitter and YouTube showing Lewis getting heckled. ucrdem Apr 2019 #54
As you know, nobody said Bernie booed. betsuni Apr 2019 #57
Wrong again... on ALL counts , bout what you said, he said, I said. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #59
As seen on TV! Order this fabulous set of steak knives for the low, low, price of $9.95. betsuni Apr 2019 #60
There are a ton of real Democrats who have long memories Gothmog Apr 2019 #65
For this thread Gothmog Apr 2019 #70
No he is not...especially if his tax plan is anything like it was last time. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #31
Trump and the gop are salivating at the thought of running against Bernie. nt Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #61
If sanders is the nominee, trump will win45+ states Gothmog Apr 2019 #64
At. Least. nt Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #66
I doubt that Bernie can carry the Rust Belt states mentioned in the article. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #5
I suspect Bernie is gonna kick some major RethugliKKKon azz!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #50
"decades of lopsided trade deals and special interests"? ucrdem Apr 2019 #6
I know.. same ol same ol Cha Apr 2019 #15
Dear Nate, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #20
Touting a candidate who historically DECLINES in the polls once he starts running. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #43
He has failed to garner the nomination in two primaries artislife Apr 2019 #56
. . . and then he won it, twice. ucrdem Apr 2019 #58
Obama won it. artislife Apr 2019 #67
And already sore. ucrdem Apr 2019 #53
If that's what Cha Apr 2019 #55
Tee hee.... Kahuna7 Apr 2019 #63
After the republican machine is done with him BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #9
Most likely the republican machine won't get their hands on him, they'll be attacking our nominee. George II Apr 2019 #12
... Cha Apr 2019 #14
Sanders has been closer to Buttigieg than Biden in many of them JI7 Apr 2019 #16
Wait until Biden is formally a candidate - that should be worth between 5-10 points.... George II Apr 2019 #19
Look for increased attacks on Biden. George II Apr 2019 #18
lol.. I'm sure they'll Cha Apr 2019 #21
The last attack or hit job by friends of sanders failed Gothmog Apr 2019 #25
Funny how it is quiet now. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #29
Has he changed party affiliation yet? dhol82 Apr 2019 #26
Sorry the OP did not have time to get back to you. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #30
Should Bernie win the primaries and G.E. he will be a Democratic President, Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #32
What more do people want from the guy?! Sheesh!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #45
He signed the pledge that they all had to. Snotcicles Apr 2019 #71
It will never come to Bernie v Trump BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #28
If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states Gothmog Apr 2019 #52
I really want to meet one of these mythical people Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #73
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