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In reply to the discussion: Sanders sees path to beating Trump in Rust Belt [View all]Gothmog
(180,647 posts)27. No one took sanders seriously last cycle and so the press never vetted sanders
No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717
Finally, what happens when the oppo dump on Sanders comes? We have no idea, because it never happened in 2016. Clinton was so terrified of alienating his supporters and seeing them vote for Jill Stein in the general election (or not vote at all) that she tiptoed around him for pretty much the entirety of the primary campaign. That doesnt mean that hell be destroyed when stories about the more colorful aspects of his history start cropping up, but theres just no way to know.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0
2. How will he withstand more scrutiny and more attacks?
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
There is a ton of strong opposition research out there that will come out this cycle
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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I think it would help in Wisconsin if the nominee made some appearances in the state.
33taw
Apr 2019
#1
Trump will have his second rally in Green Bay tomorrow. Not 1 Dem. foolish strategy.
33taw
Apr 2019
#72
Why are people constantly posting right wing bloggers telling us how one of our candidates...
Hassin Bin Sober
Apr 2019
#8
The Washington Post isn't a "right wing source", and Henry Olson isn't a "blogger". Plus....
George II
Apr 2019
#10
Polling numbers change all the time... didn't we learn anything from the last election?!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#38
Every candidate, like Hillary & Joe, deserved their 2nd chance... 3 times is not the charm...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#35
As I said, Bernie deserves a second shot at the nomination, like Hillary & Joe have had.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#40
You saw Bernie booing?! LOL, riiiiighht!! Didn't think you could show any video evidence of that.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#47
As seen on TV! Order this fabulous set of steak knives for the low, low, price of $9.95.
betsuni
Apr 2019
#60
No he is not...especially if his tax plan is anything like it was last time. nt
UniteFightBack
Apr 2019
#31
I doubt that Bernie can carry the Rust Belt states mentioned in the article.
TexasTowelie
Apr 2019
#5
Touting a candidate who historically DECLINES in the polls once he starts running.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2019
#43
Most likely the republican machine won't get their hands on him, they'll be attacking our nominee.
George II
Apr 2019
#12
Wait until Biden is formally a candidate - that should be worth between 5-10 points....
George II
Apr 2019
#19