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kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
54. Ultimately, Sanders' bloc will fracture
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 03:59 PM
Apr 2020

Progressives who saw Sanders as a better alternative than Biden to Trump will settle on Biden, begrudgingly, but they'll vote.
Those who saw Sanders as Their Guy will likely not vote at all, even if Sanders endorses Biden.
Those who saw Sanders as an alternative to voting for the Democrats, or who saw in Sanders the role as a spoiler against Biden, will vote for Trump.

I'd question how much of the latter two were ever really that interested in voting for the Democratic party in the first place.

I'm sure that this is the calculus that Biden has been playing with for a while. He's reaching out to disaffected Republicans and Independents, because it is more likely that they WILL vote for him, and may very well convert some of them to voting Democrat down the ticket.

What's more - and this is something that many of Sanders' younger voters are now learning first hand - elections matter. A significant number of them are now in college, which has been radically disrupted by the ineptness of the Trump administration via the pandemic, many others, already working, are now unemployed. Given a choice between a kind of goofy but competent guy on one hand and Trump on the other, I expect that they will be abandoning Sanders in droves at this point for Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
its a good decision..America has moved on from the primaries... samnsara Apr 2020 #1
Not all of them LoveMyCali Apr 2020 #44
I got a email about our primary in May (Oregon) marlakay Apr 2020 #56
I Will Believe It When I See It, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #2
Well stated. n/t Chemisse Apr 2020 #5
Well said! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #7
Speaking of faith in things unseen... jberryhill Apr 2020 #20
You May Doubt As You Wish, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #22
I was simply asking what is a reasonable question jberryhill Apr 2020 #25
Someone Arguing My Identity With Me, Sir, Would Be An Entertaining Way To Spend The Day The Magistrate Apr 2020 #27
Again, an unusual exercise in point-missing jberryhill Apr 2020 #28
You Are Making A Claim Regarding The Identity Of The Person You Are Addressing, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #32
What is that claim? jberryhill Apr 2020 #34
The Question Contains A Claim, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #38
Unlike people who post under a pseudonym jberryhill Apr 2020 #42
Oh, You Came Back! You Came Back! Oh Frabjous Day, Calloo Calley! The Magistrate Apr 2020 #43
You've helped me make up my mind jberryhill Apr 2020 #45
It's Really a Shame, Sir, But The Magistrate Apr 2020 #46
I hope you find something joyful to do today jberryhill Apr 2020 #50
It's Been A Slice, Fella The Magistrate Apr 2020 #51
Well you shouldn't. If you had ever been stalked, you might reconsider. It is a horrible experience. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #58
I will believe it the minute I see it. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #3
I'll believe the news that Sanders drops out when I hear it from him. Not holding my breath. Walleye Apr 2020 #4
Not convinced this will happen anytime soon gristy Apr 2020 #6
Don't hold your breath. Squinch Apr 2020 #8
Continuing to breathe... MineralMan Apr 2020 #12
It's about fucking time. Nitram Apr 2020 #9
He'll find some excuse to hang in til the bitter end. And then comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #10
I hope if he's asked, which side are you on, he won't say... Kahuna Apr 2020 #11
How does this post help nt Tribetime Apr 2020 #13
How Does It Hurt, Sir? The Magistrate Apr 2020 #14
That's for you to decide, really. MineralMan Apr 2020 #16
If past history is an indication.... LiberalFighter Apr 2020 #15
It generally is worth reexamination, I think. MineralMan Apr 2020 #17
He'll be in to the bitter end and at least a month past that, Hortensis Apr 2020 #21
I Expect You Are Right, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #47
Sanders' five-year battle has achieved nomination at our convention. Hortensis Apr 2020 #18
Great post...and I agree...if you want influence you need to vote and participate in the Democratic Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #19
What is your evidence? nt. BlueIdaho Apr 2020 #23
There Have Been Recent Reports, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #24
Careful thinking and reading news reports. MineralMan Apr 2020 #26
"Which Side Are You On?" William769 Apr 2020 #29
Yes. Once Sanders drops out, my intention is to avoid any engagement MineralMan Apr 2020 #30
That Is My Intention As Well, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #41
There is an article in the wp that syas most of bernies senior advisors are urging dropping out getagrip_already Apr 2020 #31
You have to hope, Bayard Apr 2020 #33
Even if he does, those numbers (48,38,14) at the top of the page won't change... ever. lamp_shade Apr 2020 #35
Pfffttt..that's what was thrown around after Bernie's last huge primary loss Bengus81 Apr 2020 #36
Bernie quit? But, he hasn't toppled the Democratic establishment yet! LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #37
Money Concerns May Well Be a Factor, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #48
Their non action is an action sellitman Apr 2020 #39
Umm... Why does it take so long for him to make decisions? ecstatic Apr 2020 #40
I will believe it when I see it. He has done the Democratic primary no favors. LizBeth Apr 2020 #49
I am willing to assume he will be on our side and that he will do all the right things. (sincerely) Eliot Rosewater Apr 2020 #52
If he wants to run for office so badly, then why doesn't he run on the republican platform? SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #53
Ultimately, Sanders' bloc will fracture kurtcagle Apr 2020 #54
The primary is over Gothmog Apr 2020 #55
Bernie's not withdrawing Crutches Apr 2020 #57
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