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Gothmog

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21. No one took sanders seriously in 2016 and so sanders was not vetted
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:54 PM
Apr 2019

No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717

Finally, what happens when the oppo dump on Sanders comes? We have no idea, because it never happened in 2016. Clinton was so terrified of alienating his supporters and seeing them vote for Jill Stein in the general election (or not vote at all) that she tiptoed around him for pretty much the entirety of the primary campaign. That doesn’t mean that he’ll be destroyed when stories about the more colorful aspects of his history start cropping up, but there’s just no way to know.

Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: There’s no way to know how it’s going to go. But he’s got his work cut out for him.

See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0

2. How will he withstand more scrutiny and more attacks?
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)

Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.

Now we can see how sanders reacts to being vetted



Among some Democrats, there was a sense of bewilderment that the Sanders campaign had gone—as one operative put it—”nuclear” over a mere web video. One Democratic consultant sympathetic to Sanders described the video as being “like a gnat buzzing around your ear,” one which should not have distracted from the candidate’s Midwest tour.

It also raised questions as to whether the senator was ready for the scrutiny that would come from being a frontrunning candidate, after having run as an insurgent against an ideal foil, Hillary Clinton, in 2016.

“When you’re leading in the polls of president of your party you should expect investigative stories to hit at least once a week and to be attacked by your opponents every day,” said Ben Labolt, who served as press secretary to Barack Obama during the 2012 campaign. “An attack on something like ThinkProgress is the sign of a super-narrow-minded campaign that isn’t actually thinking of how the election will be won... They have chosen an establishment force that no one outside of the Starbucks at 16th and K would recognize.”
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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"Please help play a constructive role in the effort to defeat Donald Trump." TwilightZone Apr 2019 #1
In a world where irony reigns Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #4
Oh, careful, Bernie... MineralMan Apr 2019 #2
Victimhood SHRED Apr 2019 #3
Speaking of irony Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #10
David Sirota's employer complains about bad faith smears? comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #5
Was telling voters that Hillary was corrupted by Goldman Sachs in 2016 a "bad faith smear"? riverine Apr 2019 #6
Reminds me of Skidmore Apr 2019 #7
Washington Post-Opinion: Sanders's testiness will revive long-standing concerns Gothmog Apr 2019 #8
I don't expect anything positive regarding Bernie to come from Bezos' paper. n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #9
Of Jennifer Rubin and her "Right Turn" column Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #11
"Right turn" as if they hadn't already veered to the extreme Reich..I mean right. Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #13
You never post links. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #41
This is from Prof. Tribe Gothmog Apr 2019 #12
Excellent response from Prof Tribe, Goth! Cha Apr 2019 #14
Tribe is an active booster of the Palmer Report, the same organization that says Snopes Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #15
He's also a "corporations are people" advocate. And a plagiarist. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2019 #16
"We the Corporations." Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #17
LOL Gothmog Apr 2019 #19
Link? sheshe2 Apr 2019 #42
I disagree strongly Gothmog Apr 2019 #18
I love Tribe's treatment of Carnival Cruz Gothmog Apr 2019 #20
Why is sanders so thin skinned? Gothmog Apr 2019 #22
Because Bernie just doesn't have your grace Gothmog, you should run for President. n/t Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #23
I think Gothmog would make a better President nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #24
Of course he would. Cha Apr 2019 #28
Definitely! (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #30
Gothmog would get my vote! mcar Apr 2019 #25
I'd vote for him in a NY minute. George II Apr 2019 #26
Correct. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #33
Gothmog has amazing grace. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #34
More than that, he's Presidential in the somewhat forgotten tradition of Presidential grace... George II Apr 2019 #35
Woah. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #37
This video still brings tears to my eyes Gothmog Apr 2019 #38
I'd vote for Gothmog over sanders in a heartbeat lunamagica Apr 2019 #50
Gothmog should! NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #56
I'd Certainly Vote For You Over Someone Else Me. Apr 2019 #36
No one took sanders seriously in 2016 and so sanders was not vetted Gothmog Apr 2019 #21
Anger management is a tricky thing n/t BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #27
I think that anger management is an important quality in a POTUS Gothmog Apr 2019 #29
When you have ambitions for the WH, the sunlight on you gets very, very bright indeed. ehrnst Apr 2019 #31
I want a POTUS who can Unify Cha Apr 2019 #40
I want a POTUS who is not a top-down authoritarian style leader. ehrnst Apr 2019 #53
Oh yeah, that too! Cha Apr 2019 #57
Here We Go Again Me. Apr 2019 #32
Vetting is a key part of the process Gothmog Apr 2019 #39
BS wanted President Obama Cha Apr 2019 #45
It Certainly Is Me. Apr 2019 #54
Boy, if he thinks it's bad NOW... namahage Apr 2019 #43
Ouch! sheshe2 Apr 2019 #44
Aloha, she.. Cha Apr 2019 #46
Michelle. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #47
Mahalo for the Beatles singing Michelle, she! Cha Apr 2019 #48
I miss Flotus and that husband of hers. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #49
weird stuff n/t delisen Apr 2019 #51
I find it strange that Senator Sanders deliberately disregards his own campaign manager's work there KitSileya Apr 2019 #52
All this whining makes me think that Bernie is weak. yardwork Apr 2019 #55
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